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Tim4Hillary
04-15-2009, 07:01 PM
In case anyone questions why we have to fight the noise on the right. Notice the words "dog fight" so I don't think I'm planning on becoming a shrinking violet anytime soon:

Dear Tim,

Despite an onslaught of media scrutiny trashing its accuracy, the National Organization for (Straight Only) Marriage continues to push and organize around their new ad, “Gathering Storm.” (See their ad, and what you can do about it.)

Yesterday, they sent an urgent email to their members claiming to have called over 250,000 homes in Iowa, and seeking to raise $1.5 million for their efforts, including an aggressive ad campaign targeting us in California -- just as the California Supreme Court is deliberating on our challenge to Prop 8.

Please help us respond to this attack.

Here are a few snippets of their appeal:

[LGBT rights activists are] worried about California and how a loss in the nation’s most populace state will
affect them…

Though we have received a bump in our funding in the wake of the launch of our ad, we are in for a
real dogfight. We must get our message out in more markets and build what we have never had before —
a dedicated army of millions of marriage activists to volunteer, organize, and VOTE for marriage.

Today, I’m asking for your help to counter NOM’s work in California .

We have a secret weapon in this state. It’s the married couples, their friends and family members, and their ability to tell their personal stories. It is those stories that smash the lies and misinformation our opponents spread. And this work must be done in our own neighborhoods, person to person, where it has the most impact.

But people need help telling their stories. They need support for those difficult conversations, they need help realizing their power, and they need tools and motivation to talk neighbor to neighbor.

That's why we are hiring field organizers to bolster this critical work in the parts of our state where we have the most work to do. We are adding organizers in San Diego , Orange County , the Inland Empire, the Central Valley and Sacramento , under the visionary leadership of our new field director Amy Mello , working out of Los Angeles , another place where a majority of voters supported Prop 8.

Please make a donation right now so we can hire field organizers as part of our campaign to talk neighbor to neighbor across the state.

A plan of this magnitude requires skilled organizers to plan, motivate, and change minds. We are starting with six, but it’s only a start. We need many more to help change the hearts and minds of hundreds of thousands of Californians.

This is expensive, but it must be done. The work does not happen on its own. Please, lend your help now.

Warmly,


Marc Solomon
Marriage Director
Equality California

Meg
04-15-2009, 07:24 PM
Wow... They have their heads so far up their ass it's just painful to take them seriously.

And this is as nice as anything I can say!

mavfin
04-15-2009, 07:55 PM
Wow... They have their heads so far up their ass it's just painful to take them seriously.

And this is as nice as anything I can say!

Not at all unusual for groups that think they have the right to take others' freedoms away. Same tactic used by gun opponents, different issue. Fear. Both trying to limit freedoms of others 'for the greater good' they say. All about control, really, and it's completely wrong in a free society.

CGP
04-15-2009, 08:46 PM
N.O.M. is nothing but a disgusting hate organization. The president, Maggie Gallagher, will go down in history as a gay-loathing, hateful bigot whose lies about gay people and her demonization of gay marriage have caused untold damage to many people's lives. True justice would be her husband leaving her for a gay man.

An "army of marriage activists" - that should read an "army of homophobic bigots". Want to join up? Go right ahead, history will bring nothing but shame upon you.

Count me in - in regards to their "dog fight". :rolleyes:

CGP
04-15-2009, 08:48 PM
Maggie Gallagher - The current face of American homophobia & heterosexism:

http://www.miketidmus.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/slime_maggie1.jpg

And the article, "Theocracy Slimed" by Mike Tidemus: Read it Here (http://www.miketidmus.com/blog/2009/04/10/theocracy-slimed/)


One of the loudest, and most vulgar, voices behind that travesty at the ballot box was Maggie Gallagher, who heads the National Organization for Marriages Denied People Like Our Beloved Claude and His Husband Javier, or as it’s commonly known NOM — an organization that may or may not be a front for the Church of Jesus F Christ of Latter Day Saints.

NOM (pronounced gnome) recently launched a television ad campaign in response to the overwhelming victories for common sense, justice, equality and secularism in Vermont and Iowa.

Meg
04-15-2009, 10:15 PM
Not at all unusual for groups that think they have the right to take others' freedoms away. Same tactic used by gun opponents, different issue. Fear. Both trying to limit freedoms of others 'for the greater good' they say. All about control, really, and it's completely wrong in a free society.

Which is funny. It's like ok crazy social conservatives, You don't want people infringing on YOUR rights but taking away everyone else sits just fine! And it's especially the right that irritates me! It's like you complain about government getting to big and controlling you lives but what the hell! Let's go start getting into the details of peoples bedroom activties!:atwitsend:

Tim4Hillary
04-15-2009, 10:26 PM
You can't equate gun control with gay rights. This is why the black and white crowd get on my nerves (and I mean that in the kindest and gentlest of ways;)). We are a nation of laws. We have to have laws. The common denominator should be - does it make sense? - not does is fit some ideology. Not letting people have 25 AK 47s, or letting the bi-polar down the street have a gun, or putting child safety locks just for extra protection - makes sense. Not giving people equal rights - doesn't make sense.

mavfin
04-15-2009, 10:41 PM
You can't equate gun control with gay rights. This is why the black and white crowd get on my nerves (and I mean that in the kindest and gentlest of ways;)). We are a nation of laws. We have to have laws. The common denominator should be - does it make sense? - not does is fit some ideology. Not letting people have 25 AK 47s, or letting the bi-polar down the street have a gun, or putting child safety locks just for extra protection - makes sense. Not giving people equal rights - doesn't make sense.

All three of those particular things make sense, but, taking people's guns away via a ban because of an ideology makes no more sense than taking your rights away because you're gay. You may not think it's the same thing, but it is. It's a group taking your rights away because they think they know better than you, and it's almost always just plain wrong.

Tim4Hillary
04-16-2009, 06:12 AM
All three of those particular things make sense, but, taking people's guns away via a ban because of an ideology makes no more sense than taking your rights away because you're gay. You may not think it's the same thing, but it is. It's a group taking your rights away because they think they know better than you, and it's almost always just plain wrong.

Sensible gun control does not equal "taking people's guns away via a ban."

Horizon
04-16-2009, 06:19 AM
N.O.M. is nothing but a disgusting hate organization. The president, Maggie Gallagher, will go down in history as a gay-loathing, hateful bigot whose lies about gay people and her demonization of gay marriage have caused untold damage to many people's lives. True justice would be her husband leaving her for a gay man.

An "army of marriage activists" - that should read an "army of homophobic bigots". Want to join up? Go right ahead, history will bring nothing but shame upon you.

Count me in - in regards to their "dog fight". :rolleyes:

LMAGDMFAO!!!!

Gnome: http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr254/Bitchmom67/Funnies/gnome.jpg

Witch:http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr254/Bitchmom67/Funnies/slime_maggie1.jpg

mavfin
04-16-2009, 08:06 AM
Sensible gun control does not equal "taking people's guns away via a ban."

I agree. Read what I said. :D I said the three things you mentioned make sense. DC-style complete bans (that they had before this summer) don't.

Kbentleyis
04-16-2009, 08:41 AM
It will have to be "We the People" to change gay rights. I think I must have said this a thousand times. Notice these people always throw in "Christianity" BS? This is a ploy that legislatures use so they can stay on the good side of God.

It's the negative propaganda and instilling fear that this is against the laws of human nature. What BS!

Time and time again this country has used hate mongering groups to stave off gay rights and it has to stop. It will take all of us to battle the stupidity that they spew. I've never been silent on the rights of all the people.

Tim4Hillary
04-16-2009, 11:11 AM
I agree. Read what I said. :D I said the three things you mentioned make sense. DC-style complete bans (that they had before this summer) don't.

But many gun rights advocates talk and act as there is no distinction. They are either flat out against sensible gun control or they think any sensible gun control is a slippery slope. If you do not fall in that category then we have common ground. If you think all gun control is bad then we don't have common ground.

mavfin
04-16-2009, 09:12 PM
But many gun rights advocates talk and act as there is no distinction. They are either flat out against sensible gun control or they think any sensible gun control is a slippery slope. If you do not fall in that category then we have common ground. If you think all gun control is bad then we don't have common ground.

I will always advocate freedom *with responsibility*.