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Delegate scorecard for the Republican candidates:
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/scorecard/#R
TOgirl
02-10-2008, 02:51 PM
yeah but McCain is pretty much the republican nominee. I have watched one of the republican debates... I have to say.. Huckabee appeared more genuine and a pretty good debater, but he's overly religious...
yeah but McCain is pretty much the republican nominee. I have watched one of the republican debates... I have to say.. Huckabee appeared more genuine and a pretty good debater, but he's overly religious...
Huckabee is definitely a much better speaker. McCain's speeches are incredibly bland and un-inspiring. But he is so far in front by this point.
Paine_Incarnate
02-11-2008, 04:12 AM
yeah but McCain is pretty much the republican nominee. I have watched one of the republican debates... I have to say.. Huckabee appeared more genuine and a pretty good debater, but he's overly religious...
There's always one republican candidate that wants to bring the Constitution up to "God's standards."
Remember Bush saying God wanted him to be president?
Remember Bush saying God wanted him to be president?
Yeah, whatever happened to separation between Church and State? The Republican party doesn't seem to get that concept...
Paine_Incarnate
02-11-2008, 04:31 AM
Yeah, whatever happened to separation between Church and State? The Republican party doesn't seem to get that concept...
and the democrats get attacked for not mentioning their faiths, so they have to do those very direct interviews on how faith influences their policies, etc.
Why is Huckabee persisting??? Mathematically it seems impossible for him to get nominated at this stage...
Brooke
02-19-2008, 08:44 AM
That's easy, he's trying to get VP, which he won't, but he's trying.
I have to be honest, I like McCain, I have since 2000. Maybe his speeches aren't great but he's got a lot of expeirence out of all the people who ran this year.
Great quote from McCain's Wisconsin victory speech on Feb 19, 2008:
"I will fight every moment of every day in this campaign to make sure Americans are not deceived by an eloquent but empty call for change that promises no more than a holiday from history and a return to the false promises and failed policies of a tired philosophy that trusts in government more than people."
A direct dig at Obama.
SOURCE (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/02/mccains_wisconsin_victory_spee.html)
Brooke
02-21-2008, 08:52 PM
I heard that and jumped up from the couch and yelled "YEAH!!"
I heard that and jumped up from the couch and yelled "YEAH!!"
Indeed. Me too!
But now all this stuff about McCain and the female lobbyist. I wondered who started that story? The timing of it is all very suspicious. Why now? To be honest I haven't even bothered to read up about it as it holds nil interest for some reason.
BooskerD
02-28-2008, 09:02 PM
My partner's father is a staunch republican. The sort who thinks McCain is too liberal, lol. Usually we can't talk politics, but lately we have been united in our mutual disdain for Obama- it's quite amusing.
My partner's father is a staunch republican. The sort who thinks McCain is too liberal, lol. Usually we can't talk politics, but lately we have been united in our mutual disdain for Obama- it's quite amusing.
You know, for the first time in my life I have been feeling some affinity with Republicans. It's a sick and disturbing development! And if Hillary is getting more favorable coverage on Fox than CNN, than things are truly bad! I don't have any reaction to McCain at all - he's neither here nor there for me. He seems obsessed with war and the military but otherwise I don't know enough about him to be disturbed by him.
Brooke
02-28-2008, 11:47 PM
You know, for the first time in my life I have been feeling some affinity with Republicans. It's a sick and disturbing development! And if Hillary is getting more favorable coverage on Fox than CNN, than things are truly bad! I don't have any reaction to McCain at all - he's neither here nor there for me. He seems obsessed with war and the military but otherwise I don't know enough about him to be disturbed by him.
I agree with everything you both said. One of my best friends is a Republican and is backing McCain. He doesn't like Hillary but he really hates Obama and is rooting for Hillary to beat Obama. So we've had a lot to talk about..lol. It's been fun.
BooskerD
02-29-2008, 09:47 AM
You know, for the first time in my life I have been feeling some affinity with Republicans. It's a sick and disturbing development! And if Hillary is getting more favorable coverage on Fox than CNN, than things are truly bad! I don't have any reaction to McCain at all - he's neither here nor there for me. He seems obsessed with war and the military but otherwise I don't know enough about him to be disturbed by him.
I know quite a few republicans. My partner comes from an entirely different background from me class-wise, so the last eight years have been a real learning experience for me. Usually politics is one of those areas where neither her folks nor J and I tread while together, just to keep the peace. It feels very weird to be commiserating with her dad this way- an odd type of bonding experience! :eek:
BooskerD
02-29-2008, 09:55 AM
I agree with everything you both said. One of my best friends is a Republican and is backing McCain. He doesn't like Hillary but he really hates Obama and is rooting for Hillary to beat Obama. So we've had a lot to talk about..lol. It's been fun.
My gf's dad dislikes Hillary and flat out says a lot of people hate her. There doesn't seem to be a middle ground, folks either really like or really don't like her. Even more than his dlslike for the Clintons is his complete disdain for Obama. I have to admit that it really does bother me that Obama won't wear an American flag lapel pin or put his hand over his heart during the anthem and I'm not one of those fanatical flag-waving types, either. Michelle Obama's remark about being proud of her country for the first time in her life really got my hackles up as well. I just get this feeling that Obama is so arrogant and so full of disdain for the U.S., why on earth does he even want to be president of us? While it's been weird to be bonding with my partner's very republican dad, it is kind of nice to be united in this one area.
While it's been weird to be bonding with my partner's very republican dad, it is kind of nice to be united in this one area.
It's indeed a sad state of affairs when we are finding comfort in speaking with Republicans! Who would ever have thought!
And I think the "polarizing" impact of Hillary Clinton on the public - people either love or loathe her - says more about society than it does about Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton herself is not polarizing - but people react to her in polarized ways. The majority of these people who "loathe" her know nothing about her at all and it seems much of their dislike for her is rooted in very distorted views about women and their role in society. For many, Hillary's power and strength of character is something they cannot cope with. I think there is a significant sexist component in this apparent dislike for her. I know she has made mistakes and done some things which have upset people - like we all have at times - but in my mind she has not done anything that would singlehandely account for the disdain that some people have for me. That then leads me to think there are external factors operating here independent of Hillary Clinton - sexism is the most obvious factor.
SantaCruzen
03-05-2008, 06:25 PM
Secretly, I think John McCain has a real crush on Hillary Clinton. I do mean that I think that he knows that if he could not win, he would make sure that she does.
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