(05.22.09) "Steele: Obama not vetted due to skin color" (MSNBC)

[Laura Cereta]

At some point, are Republicans going to start demanding that RNC Chairman Michael Steele no longer guest-host Bill Bennett's radio's show?

Subbing for Bennett again, Steele seemed to suggest that Barack Obama won the Democratic nomination and the presidential contest because he's black -- and because the media didn't vet him due to the color of his skin.
According to the folks at the liberal-leaning Think Progress blog, Steele said this:

"The problem that we have with this president is we don’t know him. He was not vetted, folks... He was not vetted, because the press fell in love with the black man running for the office. 'Oh gee, wouldn’t it be neat to do that? Gee, wouldn’t it make all of our liberal guilt just go away? We can continue to ride around in our limousines and feel so lucky to be alive in an America with a black president.' Okay that’s wonderful, great scenario, nice backdrop. But what does he stand for? What does he believe?"

He then said Republicans made a mistake by not seizing on Obama's ties to the controversial Jeremiah Wright. "And that's why I keep going to back the point -- the missed opportunity was dissecting and understanding Rev. Wright," Steele said.


MSNBC (http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2009/05/22/1941290.aspx)

[Ikasu]

The media fell in love with him because he was a history making candidate. Good for ratings. But he did NOT win because of his skin color. Steele should not be making this point.

[sojourner]

"The problem that we have with this president is we don’t know him. He was not vetted, folks... He was not vetted, because the press fell in love with the black man running for the office. 'Oh gee, wouldn’t it be neat to do that? Gee, wouldn’t it make all of our liberal guilt just go away?

I agree with Steele. Obama was not vetted and to a certain extend it was because they fell in love with the idea of a black man in the oval office. And as well all know - love is blind.

[hobbitt]

Okay that’s wonderful, great scenario, nice backdrop. But what does he stand for? What does he believe?"

Where is he from? Where are his school records? His Illinois congressional papers? His lawyer stuff? Why are his "autobiographies" mainly fiction? How did all those Chicago folks get to Iowa? When did Bob Johnson become a racist? Just how many "guys in the neighborhood" promoted him? Name one improvement made in the lives of the Chicago neighborhoods which he "organized and represented" for over 20 years? Why not use the online-validation offered by the credit card companies? (And about a thousand more questions)

Nice try, Michael. But you are a year too late. Too little, too late.

We tried to tell you. We really did.

[Laura Cereta]

Nice try, Michael. But you are a year too late. Too little, too late.

We tried to tell you. We really did.

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu212/2059911/itoldyouso-1.jpg ;):p

[NoFear]

MSNBC (http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2009/05/22/1941290.aspx)

methinks Steele is feeling guilty about his own unqualified self being where he is..projecting much?

:laughing:

[Suzan]

The media fell in love with him because he was a history making candidate. Good for ratings. But he did NOT win because of his skin color. Steele should not be making this point.
Seriously, you think that his being African American and the election being historical had nothing to do with the way people voted?

[mack20]

Seriously, you think that his being African American and the election being historical had nothing to do with the way people voted?

Do you think more people voted for him because he was black than didn't vote for him because he was black? I didn't vote for him because of his skin color, that's for sure.

[Folamix]

The media fell in love with him because he was a history making candidate. Good for ratings. But he did NOT win because of his skin color. Steele should not be making this point.

Why exactly was he a history-making candidate. Because of his skin color.

[Ikasu]

Seriously, you think that his being African American and the election being historical had nothing to do with the way people voted?

I said it was a factor.

[Classical Liberal]

He was definitely given a free-pass and as far as I am concerned, a great many so-called "liberals" are hypocrites for voting for him. Let's reverse the scenario:

Sarah Palin runs for President. She has written two books about herself, titling one after a sermon given by her pastor, pastor Rick Warren, whom she says has been "like a father figure" to her, whose church she has attended for twenty years, who married her to her husband Todd, and baptized her children.

Then it is discovered by some in the media that Rick Warren is a race-baiter. It is also discovered he travelled with a prominent racist who once said whites should kill blacks and Jews, all the way back in 1983, over to Germany to meet with some prominent Nazi loyalists.

Fox News is fully aware of this, but decide to try to cover it up and ignore it anyhow, but Chris Matthews is on the case. Then the scathing videos come out of Rick Warren on one of his tirades.

Sarah Palin claims she wasn't aware of Rick Warren's views, despite beign so close to him and having attended the church for twenty years. The entire media scoff, and the Left comes alive, talking about how Palin is a racist bigot hater.

But it isn't working. Her poll numbers hold, and her popularity remains high. Fox News covers it as leniently as they can, and Palin makes a speech about race.

Sean Hannity declares it as "...the best speech about race ever written." Republicans also tell the Left to stop with their "guilt by association" nonsense.

Sarah Palin continues to draw and galvanize huge crowds of people.

Meanwhile, at MSNBC, CNN, CBS, ABC, the New York Times, Newsweek, etc...journalists' heads are exploding. Comparisons are being made to the rise of Adolf Hitler and the Nazi party, and they are running split-screen coverage of the Palin crowds and the Nazi rallies.

Comparisons are made with the Hillary Clinton rallies, where the Hillary supporters all have individual signs they have made for support, while the Palin campaign has issued standardized signs to everyone, so every sign looks identical, this "proof" of how Nazi-like Palin really is.

People are terrified.

Palin grants interviews on Fox News, where she is asked completely softball questions, little about foreign policy, economics, taxes, healthcare, energy, education, and so forth. Her relationship to the Pastor Rick Warren, who she has now dismissed, is ignored. Palin grants no interviews on any of the other networks, except for one short interview with Katie Couric on CBS during the night of the Democratic National Convention, and this only because Palin had promised her an interview before when Couric met her.

Many Democrats are furious about this, claiming it will mess up their convention by pulling away viewership.

Many on the Right are also getting tired of hearing it. "When will you guys on the Left get over this whole Rick Warren-thing!?" rants Sean Hannity.

The days pass on. Palin makes a trip through the ghettos of some major cities, and then makes another few slip-ups that send the Left going wild again, referring to her African-American grandmother as a "typical black person," and in holding a town-hall with a bunch of Republican millionaires and billionaires in Dallas, TX that is thought to be private, refers to the "bitter Americans who cling to their guns and religion," referring to the mostly black people she saw in the ghettos along with other minorities, such as the predominantely Catholic Hispanic minorities. She also says, "These people are afraid of outsiders, of people who are different from them."

The amount of hatred and fear shown to Palin right now, one could only IMAGINE the firestorm that would have erupted if all the above had happened.

There were other hypocrisies as well, such as the claim that if America did not elect Obama, it "proved" we were a racist nation still. Would these Leftists have held the same opinion if it was a white Democrat and Barack Obama had been a Reagan Republican??

Or the cultural hypcorisy. Barack Obama refers to those "bitter Americans" who are "frightened of people different from them," well then what the heck are these Leftists so frightened of Palin for!?

It's like the ideas of multiculturalism, tolerance, diversity, and no prejudice go straight out the window with regards to Palin.

Multiculturalism - NADDA. We can't have any of those backwoods country hicks in this country, and especially not in government!! Don't you DARE insult Muslims, blacks, Jews, gays, Asians, whomever, but those country folk, in particular white country folk, KEEP OUT!

Diversity - defined as "everyone who isn't Country"

Tolerance - well you're a bigot if you can't tolerate another culture, but if you are Alaskan or watch NASCAR, like country music, etc...KEEP OUT.

Prejudice - you're a hateful bigot if you make fun of how certain gay men talk, or black stereotypes, or Asian stereotypes, you racist piece-of-slime.

But keep that trailer-trash Christianista and her family, who were like the Beverely Hillbillies running through Neiman Marcus, OUT OF OUR GOVERNMENT!!

I mean they called Palin and her family the above, they made fun of how she speaks, etc...things they NEVER would tolerate if white Republicans were doing with regards to any other group of people or culture.

And rightfully so, prejudice of ALL kinds is bad, but a lot on the Left were total hypocrites as I see it.

[Tybee]

He's still not being vetted. MSM rarely, if ever, asks him hard-ball questions. Smoke and mirrors...

[Suzan]

Do you think more people voted for him because he was black than didn't vote for him because he was black? I didn't vote for him because of his skin color, that's for sure.
I do, yes.

[Spang]

Some days I wish Palin had ran for president and won. Then we wouldn't have all these pointless what if Palin discussions.

[sojourner]

Some days I wish Palin had ran for president and won. Then we wouldn't have all these pointless what if Palin discussions.

I don’t think you have been paying attention. Even though she didn’t run and didn’t win we are having those discussions anyway.

[Spang]

I don’t think you have been paying attention. Even though she didn’t run and didn’t win we are having those discussions anyway.

I know. If she had ran for president and won, we wouldn't be having them.

[VotingHillary]

He was not vetted, because the press fell in love with the black man running for the office.

That and the fact that his last name wasn't Clinton.

I have said it since the primarys....we don't have "the press" anymore....only propagandists.

[mack20]

I do, yes.

Out of curiosity, what voting demographics do you think tended to vote for Obama solely based on the color of his skin?

[BillDemo]

Out of curiosity, what voting demographics do you think tended to vote for Obama solely based on the color of his skin?

What was the percentage of Black Americans who voted for the Black Candidate? Hmmmmm?

How many times did we hear voters saying it was "time for a black man to be president"? How many false charges of racism did we hear and endure?

Race definitely played a huge part in this election and Obama used it to his advantage, casting himself in the role of a victim of racism. Many interpreted Obama's calls for change as a call for change from white to black.

I couldn't care less what the race of a political candidate is. Unfortunately, most Americans do care and voted against the white candidate because they were white.

[NoFear]

Unfortunately, most Americans do care and voted against the white candidate because they were white.

I call bullsh*t. Isn't this the "race card" (in reverse) crap I hear all the time that Mccain supporters use against Obama folk when race is injected into a discussion, whether its valid or not?

Me and most of America didn't vote against McCain because he was white.
They voted against him because he was:

1) Republican (after Bush)
2) his "brilliant" VP pick
3) insert your own 3rd reason (media bias, ageism, poor campaign, ACORN, blah blah)

[Spang]

I didn't vote against McCain. I voted for Obama.

[foxyladi]

That and the fact that his last name wasn't Clinton.

I have said it since the primarys....we don't have "the press" anymore....only propagandists.

:thumbsup::thumbsup:

[TheTaoOfBill]

This thread is nothing but Hillary and McCain supporters trying to explain why they lost. When in actuality it has nothing to do with race. There have been other black candidates in the past who didn't do nearly as well. I'll tell you why both candidates lost in 2 words.

Penn. Palin.

[cinnamongirl]

This thread is nothing but Hillary and McCain supporters trying to explain why they lost. When in actuality it has nothing to do with race. There have been other black candidates in the past who didn't do nearly as well. I'll tell you why both candidates lost in 2 words.

Penn. Palin.

I agree. Hillary ultimately lost because her campaign couldn't follow through in the right areas, and much of that was due to the piss-poor management and strategies of dear Mr. Penn. McCain lost because he bungled just about everything following the VP announcement.

But it's easier to blame sex and race and media for everything, so here we are.

[Classical Liberal]

I call bullsh*t. Isn't this the "race card" (in reverse) crap I hear all the time that Mccain supporters use against Obama folk when race is injected into a discussion, whether its valid or not?

Me and most of America didn't vote against McCain because he was white.
They voted against him because he was:

1) Republican (after Bush)
2) his "brilliant" VP pick
3) insert your own 3rd reason (media bias, ageism, poor campaign, ACORN, blah blah)

I disagree on some of this. No doubt being Republican hurt, but he still could have won. Palin was the best thing McCain did for his campaign. She galvanized the base and attracted a lot of moderates. What messed up McCain was he simply gave the election away. Republicans were left scratching their heads at all of the low-hanging fruit Obama had that McCain didn't question him on.

As for VP picks, Biden sure didn't stop anyone from voting for Obama! Biden, a man who has been wrong on every major foreign policy issue for the past two decades, who had to suspend his 1988 presidential campaign because he was caught lying about his background, who has a reputation of over-exagerrating his credentials and for in general being a gaffe-prone goon (the Obama campaign had to wire his jaw shut near the end of the campaign, and now the administration are having to do so again!), and who made a HUGE gaffe when he said about FDR getting on the television in 1929 during the stock market crash.

If Palin had made that gaffe, they'd have had to pull her from the ticket.

[Tybee]

I didn't vote against McCain. I voted for Obama.


What had Obama done that made you want to vote for him?

[Laura Cereta]

He's still not being vetted. MSM rarely, if ever, asks him hard-ball questions. Smoke and mirrors...

He was never vetted and no, he is still not being vetted. I won't blame this on skin color. It's possible that some didn't ask the toughest questions because they didn't want to be called a racist, but that's their problem, not Obama's. He hasn't been vetted because people are too busy worshipping him. They worship him because he sounds good, appears cool, makes them feel good, and it's the "in" thing to do, not because he's black, white, Hispanic, purple or whatever.

[Artists4Hillary]

I agree. Hillary ultimately lost because her campaign couldn't follow through in the right areas, and much of that was due to the piss-poor management and strategies of dear Mr. Penn. McCain lost because he bungled just about everything following the VP announcement.

But it's easier to blame sex and race and media for everything, so here we are.

The above are two contributing factors. But the sexism and misogyny of the media, and the race card played by Obama were HUGE factors, so yes, sex and race are extremely important issues that were played out in this election.

McCain lost not only because of not hitting Obama hard enough, but because he didn't take the advice of keeping Wright fresh in the minds of America and attacking Obama with Wright mercessily. Also, the fundamentalists didn't come out in support of him. A lot of them didn't even vote. They screwed themselves.

Another factor was GE money. Obama renegged on his promise to only use DNC funds. No surprise there. His word means nothing.

[mack20]

What was the percentage of Black Americans who voted for the Black Candidate? Hmmmmm?

Kerry got 88% of the black vote in 2004. Obama got approximately 95%. Sure it's an increase of 7%, but black voters only count for 12% of the electorate (they counted for 11% in 2004). And according to a PEW Research study, while Obama definitely was a factor in the increase in minority participation in the 2008 election, it was also due to an uptick in the general minority population. And I'd be willing to bet money that if you could get an honest answer out of people (from either side), that the number of people who actually refused to vote for Obama based on the color of his skin was probably somewhat close to the number of people who voted for him solely because he was black.

So to go on about how black voters only voted for the democratic candidate because he was black and that's the reason Obama won seems ridiculous to me. If you want to blame a demographic for his election you'd probably be better off blaming the 18-24 crowd. And I don't think that most of them voted for Obama based on the color of his skin.

[Ikasu]

Kerry got 88% of the black vote in 2004. Obama got approximately 95%. Sure it's an increase of 7%, but black voters only count for 12% of the electorate (they counted for 11% in 2004). And according to a PEW Research study, while Obama definitely was a factor in the increase in minority participation in the 2008 election, it was also due to an uptick in the general minority population. And I'd be willing to bet money that if you could get an honest answer out of people (from either side), that the number of people who actually refused to vote for Obama based on the color of his skin was probably somewhat close to the number of people who voted for him solely because he was black.

So to go on about how black voters only voted for the democratic candidate because he was black and that's the reason Obama won seems ridiculous to me. If you want to blame a demographic for his election you'd probably be better off blaming the 18-24 crowd. And I don't think that most of them voted for Obama based on the color of his skin.

Could Obama have won the primary without receiving 90% of the AA vote? Absolutely not. They went for him in a Democratic primary against the candidate that fought for the black community all her political life.

[TheTaoOfBill]

The above are two contributing factors. But the sexism and misogyny of the media, and the race card played by Obama were HUGE factors, so yes, sex and race are extremely important issues that were played out in this election.

McCain lost not only because of not hitting Obama hard enough, but because he didn't take the advice of keeping Wright fresh in the minds of America and attacking Obama with Wright mercessily. Also, the fundamentalists didn't come out in support of him. A lot of them didn't even vote. They screwed themselves.

Another factor was GE money. Obama renegged on his promise to only use DNC funds. No surprise there. His word means nothing.

Sexism and Misogyny were canceled out by feminism and racism.

[Ikasu]

Sexism and Misogyny were canceled out by feminism and racism.

Race baiting from Obama was more of a factor than all of the above.

[TheTaoOfBill]

Race baiting from Obama was more of a factor than all of the above.

Bullshit.

Do you realize how many times I was called a sexist for supporting Obama and being against Hillary? It was equal on both sides.

I guarantee for everytime you can find an instance of Hillary being called a racist I can find an instance of Obama being called a sexist.

[Ikasu]

Bullshit.

Do you realize how many times I was called a sexist for supporting Obama and being against Hillary? It was equal on both sides.

I guarantee for everytime you can find an instance of Hillary being called a racist I can find an instance of Obama being called a sexist.

You may have been called that personally, but the media and party leaders did NOT engage in it. That's the difference. The media and Democratic leaders (like Rep. Clyburn) were unapologetic race baiters. Furthermore, the media was unbelievably sexist, so they couldn't have been "gender baiters".

[TheTaoOfBill]

You may have been called that personally, but the media and party leaders did NOT engage in it. That's the difference. The media and Democratic leaders (like Rep. Clyburn) were unapologetic race baiters. Furthermore, the media was unbelievably sexist, so they couldn't have been "gender baiters".

Again. Bullshit.

What do you call "Piling on"; "Sweety-Gate"; "Claws come out"; "Annie Oakly"; "Lipstick on a pig"; "I understand that Senator Clinton, periodically when she's feeling down, launches attacks as a way of trying to boost her appeal."; All used by the media to label Obama as a sexist. The gender card was used just as often against Obama as the race card was used against Hillary. Especially in the media.

[Ikasu]

Again. Bullshit.

What do you call "Piling on"; "Sweety-Gate"; "Claws come out"; "Annie Oakly"; "Lipstick on a pig"; "I understand that Senator Clinton, periodically when she's feeling down, launches attacks as a way of trying to boost her appeal."; All used by the media to label Obama as a sexist. The gender card was used just as often against Obama as the race card was used against Hillary. Especially in the media.

What on Earth are you talking about Tao? The media defended Obama in each of those instances. You have a revisionist view of the primary season.

[Wyoming Dem]

I don't need ANYONE telling me that I did not hear what I heard or read what I read...if you supported Clinton you were called a racist by Obama supporters UNILATERALLY, in print, on the internet, in person (I was personally assaulted by 6 African Americans that called me a Fu**ing racist redneck at a Clinton Campaign rally.) That is how it was and is. There was also the complete & utter rejection by the African American community of ANY African American who voted for Clinton. The absolutely VILE treatment that was dished out to several on this forum as well as the other forum and they were called every crappy name in the book by Obama supporters. One had her windows broken out of her house and one guy had all four tires slashed. In both instances, there were spray painted signs that read, "Uncle Tom", "Whitey wanna be" and others that are really too awful to repeat (and not much bothers me.) In point of fact, they were unable to post at other sites, IE: Huff Po and other pro-Obama websites. Ridiculed, scorned, called traitors to their race. And this was NOT isolated instances but rather an on-going campaign to discredit any African American who did not fall on the ground speaking in tongues when Obama was on TV or giving a TelePrompTer speech.

Many here are asking those of us who voted for Clinton to agree that there was not a systemic campaign to terrorize anyone who did not become orgasmic at the sound of Obama's voice and classify us as bigots. You want us to agree that is was the exception and not the rule and simply, that is not true, not then and not now. Have you not read the Obama memos that told campaign workers and supporters to, and I quote, "get in their face and shout them down and show them up for the racists they are? That is true and their was a memo or something on his dip-shit web page telling caucus workers how to intimidate any Clinton supporters showing up at caucuses and to explicitly challenge them as racists. But of course, the minute we started discussing the posts on his web page, they were scrubbed. ASk anyone here who was a member at that time. We are not making this sh!t up.

White America who voted for Obama has NO IDEA what black supporters did, said or thought. We were their, we heard it from the "horses mouth" and we dealt with these moron's every day on line. So lets agree that there was an organized Obama effort to classify those not voting for him as racist because that is exactly what there was and what they did. Just because you never read about it or saw it does not mean it did not exist. And just go to any site like Huff Po and post a "negative" Obama comment and see what kind of response you get...only the tip of the iceberg.

[TheTaoOfBill]

I don't need ANYONE telling me that I did not hear what I heard or read what I read...if you supported Clinton you were called a racist by Obama supporters UNILATERALLY, in print, on the internet, in person (I was personally assaulted by 6 African Americans that called me a Fu**ing racist redneck at a Clinton Campaign rally.) That is how it was and is. There was also the complete & utter rejection by the African American community of ANY African American who voted for Clinton. The absolutely VILE treatment that was dished out to several on this forum as well as the other forum and they were called every crappy name in the book by Obama supporters. One had her windows broken out of her house and one guy had all four tires slashed. In both instances, there were spray painted signs that read, "Uncle Tom", "Whitey wanna be" and others that are really too awful to repeat (and not much bothers me.) In point of fact, they were unable to post at other sites, IE: Huff Po and other pro-Obama websites. Ridiculed, scorned, called traitors to their race. And this was NOT isolated instances but rather an on-going campaign to discredit any African American who did not fall on the ground speaking in tongues when Obama was on TV or giving a TelePrompTer speech.

Many here are asking those of us who voted for Clinton to agree that there was not a systemic campaign to terrorize anyone who did not become orgasmic at the sound of Obama's voice and classify us as bigots. You want us to agree that is was the exception and not the rule and simply, that is not true, not then and not now. Have you not read the Obama memos that told campaign workers and supporters to, and I quote, "get in their face and shout them down and show them up for the racists they are? That is true and their was a memo or something on his dip-shit web page telling caucus workers how to intimidate any Clinton supporters showing up at caucuses and to explicitly challenge them as racists. But of course, the minute we started discussing the posts on his web page, they were scrubbed. ASk anyone here who was a member at that time. We are not making this sh!t up.

White America who voted for Obama has NO IDEA what black supporters did, said or thought. We were their, we heard it from the "horses mouth" and we dealt with these moron's every day on line. So lets agree that there was an organized Obama effort to classify those not voting for him as racist because that is exactly what there was and what they did. Just because you never read about it or saw it does not mean it did not exist. And just go to any site like Huff Po and post a "negative" Obama comment and see what kind of response you get...only the tip of the iceberg.

I'm not saying it didn't happened. I'm saying it happened on both sides and canceled each other out. Your candidate does not deserve sympathy for the kind of attacks just about every candidate goes through, especially a minority one like a woman or a black man.

[Laura Cereta]

Sexism and Misogyny were canceled out by feminism and racism.

I'll use your term to reply to this: BULLSHIT. PLAIN AND SIMPLE. Canceled out? You've got to be f*cking kidding me! %-(

[Wyoming Dem]

I'm a women and a life-long feminist and as much as it pains me to say...I would take being called "sexist" over "racist" any damn day. And that is because in this misogynistic society, acquiring the label "racist" has many more horrible, demeaning and combative consequences then being called a "sexist". In the "Good Old Boys" world, if someone called a man a sexist there would be a little snicker and a "so what?" attitude (and not all men certainly.) Call that same Good Old Boy a racist, out loud and in public and the guy is going to turn 5 shades of pale and aggressively deny the charge (even if it's true...) In a politically correct world such as ours, a man can live with being called a sexist but not a racist. In fact, he could be fired for being a racist and would not be fired for having a sexist attitude (and I am not talking about sexual harassment.)

We lived with this kind of crap and name calling EVERY SINGLE DAY of the primary season. Some Clinton supporters received death threats and many were afraid to put Clinton bumper stickers on their cars or Clinton signs in their yards. My husband voiced very real concerns about me traveling to caucus sites and Clinton campaign stops because so many of us were threatened and abused and intimidated.

SO I respectfully disagree that "sexist" and "racist" canceled each other out...two very different words, with very different meanings and very different social consequences. And because that is true, I am saddened for the plight of women but must acknowledge the truth.

[TheTaoOfBill]

I'm a women and a life-long feminist and as much as it pains me to say...I would take being called "sexist" over "racist" any damn day. And that is because in this misogynistic society, acquiring the label "racist" has many more horrible, demeaning and combative consequences then being called a "sexist". In the "Good Old Boys" world, if someone called a man a sexist there would be a little snicker and a "so what?" attitude (and not all men certainly.) Call that same Good Old Boy a racist, out loud and in public and the guy is going to turn 5 shades of pale and aggressively deny the charge (even if it's true...) In a politically correct world such as ours, a man can live with being called a sexist but not a racist. In fact, he could be fired for being a racist and would not be fired for having a sexist attitude (and I am not talking about sexual harassment.)

We lived with this kind of crap and name calling EVERY SINGLE DAY of the primary season. Some Clinton supporters received death threats and many were afraid to put Clinton bumper stickers on their cars or Clinton signs in their yards. My husband voiced very real concerns about me traveling to caucus sites and Clinton campaign stops because so many of us were threatened and abused and intimidated.

SO I respectfully disagree that "sexist" and "racist" canceled each other out...two very different words, with very different meanings and very different social consequences. And because that is true, I am saddened for the plight of women but must acknowledge the truth.

:rolleyes: