NOW's Hall of Shame

[Tybee]

The Offense: Late night TV host David Letterman "joked" that during their recent trip to New York, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's daughter "was knocked up by Alex Rodriguez" during a Yankees baseball game. The next night Letterman said that the hardest part of Palin's trip was "keeping Eliot Spitzer away from her daughter."








http://www.now.org/issues/media/hall-of-shame/

[The_Basseteer]

I think it's time for us Conservatives to start boycotting Letterman's sponsors. If he wants to continue his show he can get an "Evil-Right-Wing-Is-Picking-On-Me" Bailout from P-BO.

[greenleaf]

I'm glad to see some action from NOW. They have been so silent on so many shames in the past two years, I thought they had given up on the Women part of their name. =D>

[Spang]

I think it's time for us Conservatives to start boycotting Letterman's sponsors.

Us left-wing agnostic nut-jobs already tried that on O'Reilly. It didn't work.

[INDY4PUMAS]

Us left-wing agnostic nut-jobs already tried that on O'Reilly. It didn't work.

That's because most of you don't have any money...

[Spang]

That's because most of you don't have any money...

I'm an Obot, I'm stupid, I have no brain, I'm a pervert, I have no decency, I spend my days sitting on the couch drinking Kool-Aid, I'm a shithead and now I'm poor, which probably means that I'm lazy and don't have a job.

Is there anything else you'd like to add to that?

[INDY4PUMAS]

I'm an Obot, I'm stupid, I have no brain, I'm a pervert, I have no decency, I spend my days sitting on the couch drinking Kool-Aid, I'm a shithead and now I'm poor, which probably means that I'm lazy and don't have a job.

Is there anything else you'd like to add to that?

You use alot of comma splices...

[Spang]

You use alot of comma splices...

Also, I use a lot of comma splices. A lot is two words by the way.

[cinnamongirl]

I'm an Obot, I'm stupid, I have no brain, I'm a pervert, I have no decency, I spend my days sitting on the couch drinking Kool-Aid, I'm a shithead and now I'm poor, which probably means that I'm lazy and don't have a job.

Is there anything else you'd like to add to that?

Are you funny-looking, too?

[Spang]

Are you funny-looking, too?

Let's find out.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b35/Loompy/MeWithNewHairCut.jpg

[INDY4PUMAS]

A lot is two words by the way.

Thanks for the correction. I have been misspelling that word all of my life.


Hali, sorry for the threadjack. I hate threadjacking myself. Lovely topic....

It's great to see that NOW is weighing in and blaming Letterman for the incident.

[TheTaoOfBill]

Let's find out.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b35/Loompy/MeWithNewHairCut.jpg

I'd hit that.

[TheTaoOfBill]

http://www.now.org/issues/media/hall-of-shame/

The main reason most civil rights activists of today make people groan more than they make people get up and take action is because they refuse to accept that there is a difference between a joke and actual sexism/racism. This will only serve to polarize their movement. And that's a shame.

[INDY4PUMAS]

I think it's time for us Conservatives to start boycotting Letterman's sponsors.

So, who sponsors Letterman?

[TheTaoOfBill]

Letterman is one of the highest rated talk show hosts in America. You will never organize a boycott big enough. Just drop it. It ain't worth it. You're just going to put feminism at the butt of yet another joke.

[Spang]

So, who sponsors Letterman?

Let me help you.

Letterman Sponsors (http://hillbuzz.org/2009/06/10/list-of-david-lettermans-advertisers/)

The list may or may not be accurate.

Also, I hope you don't drive a Lexus, being that you're rich and all.

[INDY4PUMAS]

Let me help you.

Letterman Sponsors (http://hillbuzz.org/2009/06/10/list-of-david-lettermans-advertisers/)

The list may or may not be accurate.




Sorry, I don't really need the list. I am not big on boycotts. I was just trying to get the thread back on track.



Also, I hope you don't drive a Lexus, being that you're rich and all.

Amazing how defensive you are over a little joke. I hope you never run for governor.

[Spang]

Amazing how defensive you are over a little joke. I hope you never run for governor.

Lol, I won't. :D

[Ikasu]

Lol, I won't. :D

Spang for Tennessee

[TheTaoOfBill]

Comedy is something worth getting defensive over. Where would comedy be if we weren't allowed to make fun of race or gender? Comedy would be extremely boring to me if the civil rights activists had their way. And the saddest part is every time one of these activist groups go against a comedian instead of a real racist or a sexist they are only succeeding in getting people to laugh at their movement. There is a reason the image people think of when they think feminist went from Riveting Rosie to nagging college chick.

Feminists and other civil rights activists would do their movement a hell of a lot of good if they just picked their battles and avoided comedians at all costs.

[sojourner]

Comedy is something worth getting defensive over. Where would comedy be if we weren't allowed to make fun of race or gender? Comedy would be extremely boring to me if the civil rights activists had their way. And the saddest part is every time one of these activist groups go against a comedian instead of a real racist or a sexist they are only succeeding in getting people to laugh at their movement. There is a reason the image people think of when they think feminist went from Riveting Rosie to nagging college chick.

Feminists and other civil rights activists would do their movement a hell of a lot of good if they just picked their battles and avoided comedians at all costs.

The problem is that a lot of comedians are really pushing a political agenda disguised at comedy. When Rush Limbaugh makes a joke about Hillary I don’t hear a lot of democrats passing it off as just a joke.

[Spang]

When Rush Limbaugh makes a joke about Hillary I don’t hear a lot of democrats passing it off as just a joke.

Rush Limbaugh is not a comedian.

[TheTaoOfBill]

The problem is that a lot of comedians are really pushing a political agenda disguised at comedy. When Rush Limbaugh makes a joke about Hillary I don’t hear a lot of democrats passing it off as just a joke.

Rush isn't a comedian. Though he's taken just as seriously as one. And this isn't a republican democrat thing. This is an overactive civil rights activist thing.

[sojourner]

Rush isn't a comedian. Though he's taken just as seriously as one. And this isn't a republican democrat thing. This is an overactive civil rights activist thing.

You and Sprang are splitting hairs. A joke is a joke no matter who tells it. And jokes based on political agendas are the same no matter who tells them. Jokes that are meant to hurt and demean a person are unacceptable no matter who tells them.

Why should a comedian get a pass?

[Spang]

You and Sprang are splitting hairs. A joke is a joke no matter who tells it. And jokes based on political agendas are the same no matter who tells them. Jokes that are meant to hurt and demean a person are unacceptable no matter who tells them.

Comedians say a lot of offensive stuff. A lot more offensive than anything Letterman can ever say on national television. If Rush Limbaugh wants to be a comedian, he can do what Glenn Beck does and take it on the road or have is own late night show like Letterman. Otherwise, he looks like a douchebag. Along with all the other right-wing nut-jobs that try to be funny but fail miserably.

[sojourner]

Comedians say a lot of offensive stuff. A lot more offensive than anything Letterman can ever say on national television. If Rush Limbaugh wants to be a comedian, he can do what Glenn Beck does and take it on the road or have is own late night show like Letterman. Otherwise, he looks like a douchebag. Along with all the other right-wing nut-jobs that try to be funny but fail miserably.

You do realize your are making no sense?

[Spang]

You do realize your are making no sense?

I do now.

[maximuss]

is it just me or is everyone in this forum missing the point. the joke is bad and offensive because the subject was on '' the rape of a minor '. that should not be accepted under any circumstances

[lanney]

is it just me or is everyone in this forum missing the point. the joke is bad and offensive because the subject was on '' the rape of a minor '. that should not be accepted under any circumstancesgenericstamp!

[Spang]

is it just me or is everyone in this forum missing the point. the joke is bad and offensive because the subject was on '' the rape of a minor '. that should not be accepted under any circumstances

Here's a long list of comedians who tell a joke or have told a joke called, The Aristocrats. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Aristocrats_(film)) This joke is the most offensive joke you will ever here. Letterman's joke, by comparison, is an innocent knock-knock joke told by a 1st-grader. Depending on the comedian, some versions of the joke are more offensive than others but they're all offensive, and most of them involve sex with all kinds of people, including children and inanimate objects. Here's the catch - it's a joke. It's not meant to be taken seriously or literally. Because, it's a joke. That's all it is. Just a joke. No one gets seriously injured or dies during the telling of this joke. No kids are actually molested. It's just a joke.

Comedy is an art. It's also protected by the 1st Amendment to the Constitution, along with religion.

Now here's that list:

* Chris Albrecht
* Jason Alexander
* Hank Azaria
* Shelley Berman
* Billy the Mime
* Lewis Black
* David Brenner
* Mario Cantone
* Drew Carey
* George Carlin
* Mark Cohen
* Carrot Top
* Billy Connolly
* Tim Conway
* Pat Cooper
* Wayne Cotter
* Andy Dick
* Frank DiGiacomo
* Phyllis Diller
* Susie Essman
* Carrie Fisher
* Joe Franklin
* Todd Glass
* Judy Gold
* Whoopi Goldberg
* Eddie Gorodetsky
* Gilbert Gottfried
* Dana Gould
* Allan Havey
* Eric Idle
* Dom Irrera
* Eddie Izzard
* Richard Jeni
* Jake Johannsen
* The Amazing Johnathan
* Alan Kirschenbaum
* Jay Kogen
* Sue Kolinsky
* Paul Krassner
* Cathy Ladman
* Lisa Lampanelli
* Richard Lewis
* Wendy Liebman
* Bill Maher
* Howie Mandel
* Merrill Markoe
* Jay Marshall
* Jackie Martling
* Chuck McCann
* Michael McKean
* Eric Mead
* Larry Miller
* Martin Mull
* Kevin Nealon
* Taylor Negron
* The Onion editorial staff
* Otto and George
* Rick Overton
* Gary Owens
* Trey Parker, Matt Stone (South Park voices)
* The Passing Zone
* Penn & Teller
* Emo Philips
* Peter Pitofsky
* Kevin Pollak
* Paul Reiser
* Andy Richter
* Don Rickles
* Chris Rock
* Gregg Rogell
* Jeffrey Ross
* Jon Ross
* Rita Rudner
* Bob Saget
* T. Sean Shannon
* Harry Shearer
* Sarah Silverman
* Bobby Slayton
* The Smothers Brothers
* Carrie Snow
* Doug Stanhope
* David Steinberg
* Jon Stewart
* Larry Storch
* Rip Taylor
* Dave Thomas
* Johnny Thompson
* Peter Tilden
* Bruce Vilanch
* Fred Willard
* Robin Williams
* Steven Wright

[Suzan]

Let's find out.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b35/Loompy/MeWithNewHairCut.jpg
Spang, is that really you???? You look like a young angry Dr. Spock. Not Zachary Quinto. Nemoy, the original Spock.

That's a compliment BTW.

[Spang]

Spang, is that really you???? You look like a young angry Dr. Spock. Not Zachary Quinto. Nemoy, the original Spock.

That's a compliment BTW.

Yes. Thank you. :)

[maximuss]

[QUOTE=Spang;584004]Here's a long list of comedians who tell a joke or have told a joke called, The Aristocrats. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Aristocrats_(film)) This joke is the most offensive joke you will ever here. Letterman's joke, by comparison, is an innocent knock-knock joke told by a 1st-grader. Depending on the comedian, some versions of the joke are more offensive than others but they're all offensive, and most of them involve sex with all kinds of people, including children and inanimate objects. Here's the catch - it's a joke. It's not meant to be taken seriously or literally. Because, it's a joke. That's all it is. Just a joke. No one gets seriously injured or dies during the telling of this joke. No kids are actually molested. It's just a joke.

Comedy is an art. It's also protected by the 1st Amendment to the Constitution, along with religion.

Now here's that list:

what planet are you on spang ?. There is also a long list of comedians that have made vile , violent racist jokes, against AA , Jews Hispanics and Gays. Just because some people found them funny in the past does not mean they are acceptable today. We live in a politically correct society , everybody knows that and Letterman should have known that.

I have no sympathy for the man

[Suzan]

Spang, no one--at least not me--is questioning Letterman's right to tell offensive jokes. It does seem like you're questioning our right to take offense at the joke and to express that. I do think politician's kids should be off-limits because if they're not, then Obama's kids will be fair game too--and he has specifically asked that they be off limits.

If you respect Obama's request then it really isn't okay for Palin's kids to be targeted either.

[Spang]

Spang, is that really you????

You can also catch me in my End Hunger Now video:

Are you hungry?

[Spang]

It does seem like you're questioning our right to take offense at the joke and to express that.

I think you're right. I'm defending it as strongly as some people are taking offense to it.

[Suzan]

You can also catch me in my End Hunger Now video:

Are you hungry? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiHTkM5G6rw)
Did the Alfredo Chicken people pay you for that spot?

Back on topic, if NOW keeps this up, I'm going to have to take them out of my Hall of Shame.

[Spang]

Did the Alfredo Chicken people pay you for that spot?

No, it was footage I filmed for a much larger video that I have no control over and isn't complete yet. As soon as it's released, I'll post it. It's going to help end hunger in America and make me famous.

[TheTaoOfBill]

is it just me or is everyone in this forum missing the point. the joke is bad and offensive because the subject was on '' the rape of a minor '. that should not be accepted under any circumstances

That was not at all the subject of the joke...

[greenleaf]

Comedians have no more rights than the rest of us, they just have a bigger platform. I'll register my offense when I am offended. I'll boycott those who offend me. I'll boycott the sponsors of those who offend me. I'll continue to be more inclined to support candidates who are being attacked along sexist lines by comedians, commentators, and news media alike. I'll ignore all advice from those afflicted by unreasonable hatred for particular females, be it Sarah Palin, Hillary Clinton, or whoever.

[SKR01]

I'm glad to see some action from NOW. They have been so silent on so many shames in the past two years, I thought they had given up on the Women part of their name. =D>

NOW's reaction is too little, too late and no longer relevant. You're quite right; they have been silent more than once, when any woman of good conscience could see that injustice was being served, whatever the victim's political outlook.

[Laura Cereta]

NOW's reaction is too little, too late and no longer relevant. You're quite right; they have been silent more than once, when any woman of good conscience could see that injustice was being served, whatever the victim's political outlook.


Kim Gandy needs her own Hall of Shame. :-bd