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CGP
07-24-2009, 10:59 PM
Read Full Article @ Globe & Mail (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/health/canadians-happy-with-primary-health-care-study-says/article1229169/)


The largest survey on primary health care ever conducted in Canada found that most people have high praise for their family doctor, and a staggering 92 per cent would recommend their physician to a relative or friend.

Canadians – except those living in Nunavut – have excellent access to primary health care: 85 per cent of people aged 12 and older have a regular doctor, and two thirds have been seeing the same doctor for five years or more, according to the Canadian Institute for Health Information (CIHI) study, released yesterday.

“I feel darn good that 92 per cent of Canadians would recommend their family doctor to a friend. That is the litmus test,” said Sharon Johnston, a family physician and University of Ottawa professor.

Very few Canadians complained about not having a family doctor – despite the oft-repeated grievance about a shortage of physicians in some parts of the country.

The report is being released just as the Canadian health-care system is coming under increased scrutiny south of the border. President Barack Obama is attempting to reform the U.S. system with a $1-trillion initiative that would bring health care to 47 million Americans who lack coverage. His opponents have complained about the spiralling cost of his proposed overhaul, and pointed to alleged shortcomings in Canada's health-care system.



The study is based on 11,000 respondents to a 2008 household-based survey and excludes those living on first nations reserves. It is important to note that it is based on patients' memories, which aren't always 100 per cent accurate.

Primary-care physicians deal with everything from chronic disease to mental health, maternity and child care, end-of-life care and common ailments such as flu.

The study found that 95 per cent of Canadians with chronic health conditions had a regular place of care, either a family doctor, or community health centre.

Two thirds of Canadians said their doctor allows them enough time to discuss their fears and concerns about their health.

More than 54 per cent of those surveyed required ongoing medical care within the past year. Of those, only 13 per cent experienced difficulties getting an appointment or contacting a doctor. Most were able to see a doctor within seven days.



Dr. Johnston said she was heartened by the study's many optimistic findings, including the relatively short wait times. Eighty-five per cent of adults requiring immediate care for a minor problem were seen within a day.

This is the first national study of its kind to analyze patients' expectations of primary care. It found that Canadians identified continuity, co-ordination, patient-centred care, satisfaction, outcomes and interpersonal communication as important features of the primary health-care system.

CGP
07-25-2009, 01:49 AM
A related thread. (http://www.commongroundpolitics.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=47410)

Lealy
07-25-2009, 02:26 AM
The ones that are alive at least.

Sorry I don't want the govt telling me how to do anything if Canadians do good for them that is what they have.

The stories I hear don't match up with this story/survey I also did not see cancer on any this list. What is the survival rate of women with breast cancer? You also have to see a PCP for OB, it is against the law to find out the sex of your baby, you are not allowed ultra sounds unless a problem is found and unlike here were they tell women to get prenatal care asap there if you can get a doctor you are lucky to be seen once before you deliver. Here even the poor are eligible for prenatal care and the women and their babies are taken care of from the start. Why did they not give the stats for children under 12 in the article. It is subjective by 11000 people, I wonder do they poll there like they do here pick the people with the answers they want?

Kbentleyis
07-25-2009, 02:39 AM
This is unbelievable CPG. I've spent the better part of the last month reading and viewing Canadians and Brits--and listening to their nightmare of health care.

In fact, David Hannan, a Parliment member of Great Brit, said tonight that he is living in our future. The godawful information of their health care was so frightening--and the costs were devestating. He's a Parliment member and criticizing the universal care. He also added, there's little or no chance of ever going back. The peoples' taxes are almost 52%, so half of what they make goes to the UK.

The governor of Hawaii was on earlier this evening. Hawaii adopted a universal plan which resulted in the same horror story. They only had it for 7 months when she discontinued the plan. The abuse from both members and politicians set their state into a huge deficit.

I understand Massachusetts is also going under because of their universal plan. Who they thank Mitt Romney a lot.

So, I'm relying on looking at the 3 house plans and the Kennedy plan. As confusing as it's meant to be, all 4 of them should be set on fire on the Senate floor. You, or no other American would settle for the foolishness in these bills.

All the information is too much for this old laptop to handle, so I advise all to go to the government site and view for yourselves and don't rely on just our forum resources.

After reading so much information, you have to ask yourself, if they screwed up Medicare, Medicade, and VA care so much, how can we let them in charge of all American's health care. The costs to each family will cripple their income. BTW, nothing in these bills give an actual cost. But all 4 progress. The rich are first to get hit. When that's done, then middle, then lower classes. But still, the government will be short on expenses, then availability to health care is next.

Nothing is free. Also, everyone's finances and will be reviewed periodically, and your private health that was between you and your doctor will no longer apply.

The government will bill you accordingly and you'll either still be responsible for high costs of medical not covered by any of more expensive plans--Or, as in Medicade, and you have the totally FREE care, you are obligated to prove your poverty standard. And, we all know what that means.

CGP
07-25-2009, 02:45 AM
This is unbelievable CPG. I've spent the better part of the last month reading and viewing Canadians and Brits--and listening to their nightmare of health care.

KB, I've never been to Canada but I did live in England for >2 years and the healthcare I received there was excellent, and easily accessed. It also didn't cost me a cent at the point of service, although obviously I paid for it through tax contributions.

Kbentleyis
07-25-2009, 02:54 AM
KB, I've never been to Canada but I did live in England for >2 years and the healthcare I received there was excellent, and easily accessed. It also didn't cost me a cent at the point of service, although obviously I paid for it through tax contributions.

Wow, I'd love to hear about your travels some day. You are so lucky. But these damn plans will not only tax, but there looks like the usual monthly charge for it as well. Right now, our government can't pay for it, so they'll become the provider that many of us already carry. There will still be millions left uninsured, a total waste of paper and time.

We deserve a better health reform, but not if it's going to take our country and people down with it.

Very poor plans, and BHO just wants the government to control at any cost. Not wise or logical.

CGP
07-25-2009, 03:02 AM
Wow, I'd love to hear about your travels some day.

I am still paying (loan!) for my time there!

What does that say?!

rob3gdd
07-25-2009, 07:40 AM
this is unbelievable cpg. I've spent the better part of the last month reading and viewing canadians and brits--and listening to their nightmare of health care.

In fact, david hannan, a parliment member of great brit, said tonight that he is living in our future. The godawful information of their health care was so frightening--and the costs were devestating. He's a parliment member and criticizing the universal care. He also added, there's little or no chance of ever going back. The peoples' taxes are almost 52%, so half of what they make goes to the uk.

The governor of hawaii was on earlier this evening. Hawaii adopted a universal plan which resulted in the same horror story. They only had it for 7 months when she discontinued the plan. The abuse from both members and politicians set their state into a huge deficit.

I understand massachusetts is also going under because of their universal plan. Who they thank mitt romney a lot.

So, i'm relying on looking at the 3 house plans and the kennedy plan. As confusing as it's meant to be, all 4 of them should be set on fire on the senate floor. you, or no other american would settle for the foolishness in these bills.

all the information is too much for this old laptop to handle, so i advise all to go to the government site and view for yourselves and don't rely on just our forum resources.

After reading so much information, you have to ask yourself, if they screwed up medicare, medicade, and va care so much, how can we let them in charge of all american's health care. The costs to each family will cripple their income. Btw, nothing in these bills give an actual cost. But all 4 progress. The rich are first to get hit. When that's done, then middle, then lower classes. But still, the government will be short on expenses, then availability to health care is next.

Nothing is free. Also, everyone's finances and will be reviewed periodically, and your private health that was between you and your doctor will no longer apply.

The government will bill you accordingly and you'll either still be responsible for high costs of medical not covered by any of more expensive plans--or, as in medicade, and you have the totally free care, you are obligated to prove your poverty standard. And, we all know what that means.



i take stats and this survey is meaningless because it isnt a random survey and its voluntary and based on memory. These results could of been manipulated, this survey isnt real.

HAS ANYONE SEEN THE HEALTH CARE HORRORS ON FOX? ARE AMERICANS GOING TO HAVE A CHOICE OF DOCTORS AND IF WE WANT A SECOND OPINION, CAN WE GO TO ANOTHER DOCTOR AND HOW LONG DO WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR CARE? THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT BOTHER ME ABOUT THIS HEALTH CARE STUFF. JUST BECAUSE ITS CHEAPER DOESNT MEAN THE HEALTH CARE IS BETTER. I RATHER PAY A LITTLE MORE THAT PAY LESS AT THE EXPENSE OF MU HEATH AND POSSIBLY LIFE

Spang
07-25-2009, 10:47 AM
HAS ANYONE SEEN THE HEALTH CARE HORRORS ON FOX?

No. I don't like being lied to.

Aria
07-25-2009, 11:15 AM
...We deserve a better health reform, but not if it's going to take our country and people down with it.

Agree - that's the point!

foxyladi
07-25-2009, 11:32 AM
Agree - that's the point!

Palosi is bound and dertimined to push this garbage bill through.[-X