(08.08.09) "DEMS UNGLUED: Meltdown on Health-Care Critics" (Jonah Goldberg, NY Post)

[K.Wayne]

READ FULL TEXT HERE (http://www.nypost.com/seven/08082009/postopinion/opedcolumnists/dems_unglued_183482.htm?page=0)

THE Democratic Party is pan icking, lashing out like a cornered animal, all because its effort to take over the health-care industry is coming apart like so much wet toilet paper.

Nancy Pelosi, who will get her own bound volume in the annals of asininity, has outdone herself. When asked by a reporter whether the protests at various town-hall meetings represented legitimate grassroots opposition or were manufactured "Astroturf" stunts, she replied, "I think they're Astroturf. You be the judge. They're carrying swastikas and symbols like that to a town meeting on health care."

Now this is a pas de trois of dishonesty, slander and idiocy. Not only is Pelosi lying when she says protesters are bringing swastikas to these town halls, not only is she suggesting that American citizens are Nazis for having the effrontery to get in the way of ObamaCare, but she's also saying that the alleged swastikas are obvious proof that these protests are manufactured by slick PR gurus.

How does that work? What public-relations genius says: "OK, we need these protests to seem like an authentic backlash of real Americans. Make sure everyone has enough Nazi paraphernalia!"

This, of course, doesn't preclude the possibility that the protestors are also Nazis; they were snappy dressers (Hugo Boss made SS uniforms after all). But we'll leave that there.

The White House is asking supporters to submit the names of anyone who forwards e-mail with "fishy" information. "Fishy information" herewith defined as anything that serves as a speed bump for the White House steamroller.


It's difficult for mere mortals like us to fully grasp the enormity of the Democrats' hypocrisy. Put aside all that talk of dissent being the highest form of patriotism. Overlook that Democrats would have upended jerry cans of gasoline and immolated themselves in protest if the Bush administration had asked people to inform on their neighbors. You can even forget that the DNC's claims are untrue.

But how can we ignore the fact that the world's most famous community organizer is whining about community organizing?

But wait: It gets better. As of this writing, the entire BarackObama.com site was dedicated to "Organizing for America," with a special page dedicated to "Organizing for Health Care," where supporters are asked to flood town halls and "make certain your members of Congress know that you're counting on them to act."

They only thing they left out is the instruction to leave the Brooks Brothers jackets and swastikas at home.


Simply put: This administration believes it knows best. It feels it is the only legitimate beneficiary of "people power." It thinks it has a monopoly on democratic organizing. And it is terrified that it will be hobbled if it loses this fight.

So, it just stands to reason that anyone who stands in the way must be a fraud, a puppet, a goon -- or even a Nazi.

[smiledr]

Organizing for America," with a special page dedicated to "Organizing for Health Care," where supporters are asked to flood town halls and "make certain your members of Congress know that you're counting on them to act."


Uh-Oh these might be manufactured town halls.

[Wyoming Dem]

THE Democratic Party is panicking, lashing out like a cornered animal, all because its effort to take over the health-care industry is coming apart like so much wet toilet paper.

And every bit as stinky!!!! Bwaaaaahahahahahahah:rotfl:

Nancy Pelosi, who will get her own bound volume in the annals of asininity And just think of the stiff competition she will have to face...:rotfl:

The White House is asking supporters to submit the names of anyone who forwards e-mail with "fishy" information. "Fishy information" herewith defined as anything that serves as a speed bump for the White House steamroller.

Say Hallelujah Brother!!! Bring it home...

But how can we ignore the fact that the world's most famous community organizer is whining about community organizing?
:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

HYSTERICAL and TOTALLY sums up the whole Obama fallacy of "A New Kind OF Politician".

Purveyors of this LOUSY plan can http://thump01.pbase.com/o6/61/114161/1/86440258.UObhvvBd.kissass2.gif
THANK YOU SmileDR your name is totally apropos!!!

[karate kid x]

Now this is a pas de trois of dishonesty, slander and idiocy. Not only is Pelosi lying when she says protesters are bringing swastikas to these town halls, not only is she suggesting that American citizens are Nazis for having the effrontery to get in the way of ObamaCare, but she's also saying that the alleged swastikas are obvious proof that these protests are manufactured by slick PR gurus.

How does that work? What public-relations genius says: "OK, we need these protests to seem like an authentic backlash of real Americans. Make sure everyone has enough Nazi paraphernalia!"

This, of course, doesn't preclude the possibility that the protestors are also Nazis; they were snappy dressers (Hugo Boss made SS uniforms after all). But we'll leave that there.


What is with this idiocy? nobody is suggesting that the protectors are Nazis, not even Nancy Pelosi.

She is pointing out that people are comparing obama to a nazi over the healthcare proposal. She points that out to express that the people at the protests are in an angry irrational zeal, and that people in an angry irrational zeal make nazi comparisons.

also, Letterman wasn't talking about willow Palin a couple months ago

Anyone who has experience communicating with people should find these things rather obvious.

stop trying to turn everything that someone says into something that it isn't


I know Tao has probably already used this image before, but i think it's relevant here

http://www.joeydevilla.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/common_sense_god_damn_super_power.jpg

[Wyoming Dem]

George Bush, who was an even bigger moron than Obama and his REALLY shady Pal Cheney, were compared to Hitler, Nazis, Inquisitioners, you name it, on almost a daily basis (and maybe even by me :eek: ) Is Obama somehow sacrosanct? And Pelosi...special place in hell for women that shaft other women for political expediency...but I digress...

The entire problem is...NO ONE, NOT ONE DAMN PERSON is allowed to question the words, deeds, motivations of "The Great One . After a bought and paid for primary, where the outcome was pre-ordaned and a general election that had so many Media with their heads in Obamas lap you could hear the sucking noise from 2000 miles away, Obama just can't friggin' believe that he might not get his way on this. And that is all beside the point, this proposed legislation is LOUSY and neither obama or his thugs in Congress can make it "un-lousy" unless they shit-can it and start over.

And...even if Letterman was not talking about the younger daughter??? It was a SEXIST and shitty thing to say and was not funny from any woman's perpective. Men...you guys are totally oblivious until it's your daughter, your wife or you Mother.

[The_Basseteer]

What is with this idiocy? nobody is suggesting that the protectors are Nazis, not even Nancy Pelosi.

She is pointing out that people are comparing obama to a nazi over the healthcare proposal. She points that out to express that the people at the protests are in an angry irrational zeal, and that people in an angry irrational zeal make nazi comparisons.

So, Lets just call them "Totalitarian Romantics".....
From: American Thinker
August 08, 2009
Nancy's Nazis (http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/08/nancys_nazis.html)
By James Lewis
Nancy Pelosi has a very florid imagination. In her mind's eye she is seeing people "carrying swastikas" at Town Hall meetings to protest Obama's Central Plan for American medicine. Which makes me wonder why all the swastika-carrying nutsies -- or Nazis? or just nasties? -- in Ms. Pelosi's imagination are not in favor of Obama's plan to control US medicine. It's a control freak's dream, after all, and the Nazis were totalitarian control freaks.

Can we get serious? One of the painful things today is the massive failure of history teaching in the schools and colleges, so that kids confuse Hitler's Nazis with the people who fought for freedom against them. Stalin and Hitler forged an alliance in 1938. Had Hitler not gone mad and invaded Stalin's Soviet Union, the Nazis and Soviets would have gone to war against the West together. And they would have won.

The Nazis were totalitarian romantics. That is why Hitler imitated and glorified Richard Wagner, the Siegfried mythographer who marked the very height of German Romanticism. That is also why the Nazis hated both Jews and Christians, and promoted a neo-pagan religion based on the Nordic gods and the glorification of killing and war. The Nazis were romantics -- just like the hippies in the Sixties. They loved going "back to nature," "the noble Savage," nudism, and the destruction of marriage and traditional families.

Obama's former good buds Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn are prototypical anarchist Romantics, people who are quite willing to kill for their cause. Hitler's Nazis were emotional revolutionaries with an endless craving to attack, subvert, control and co-opt all the existing structures of society. Oh, and yes, they had a Mass Cult of the Leader not unlike the idolatry whipped up for Barack Obama today. Obama's "Citizens of the World!" speech in front of 200,000 cheering Berliners had that very familiar look to it. That was not an accident, but a deliberate PR stunt.

The best explanation of Nazism ever written is Peter Viereck's Metapolitics: The roots of the Nazi mind. If you only give your kids one book this year, that should be the one. Viereck's Metapolitics was written in great fear and passion during the early days of Hitler's rise, when the author was a still graduate student of German history, and then revised two decades later. But it's one of those books that remains relevant because it hits the nail on the head. You can't get more accurate than Viereck did. A few years later Thomas Mann wrote an Epilogue to Viereck's book, endorsing its main conclusions. They both understood how deeply the Nazis were rooted in German history.

"Metapolitics" is the name the Nazis gave to their brand of politics, because in their minds they were trying to change the entire world, not just be another political party. Marxism is metapolitics; Nazism is metapolitics. And yes, some of today's political fantasists dream the same dreams. (Hint: Who do you think wants to revolutionize the world today?)

Metapolitics was very controversial even after World War Two, because it criticized European Romanticism, beloved by European and American scholars and writers. But Peter Viereck was right and his critics were wrong. German Romanticism of the totalitarian variety survived the Nazis, and just re-emerged as the Green movement in Europe. Nazism was always a "back to nature" movement anyway. After the Nazis were defeated, all the Wagnerian Romantics turned into Socialist Romantics. Often they were the very same people, like Martin Heidegger, Paul de Man, and even Jean-Paul Sartre. The 1968 student riots in Europe, which ultimately brought the Greens to power, were run by anarchists identical to the Nazi rioters of the Munich beer halls. Some of them have realized as much since that time.

Post-modernism is an attack on Western rationalism, democracy, capitalism, free speech and free thought. It's called "Post-Modernism" because it wants to kill modernism. Modernism stands for science, technology, democracy, medicine and yes, bourgeois capitalism: The keys to modern prosperity and well-being. That is why "Post-Modernism" became so popular in our college English and History departments. That is also why we have the "global warming" fraud, the anti-science movements, the anti-nuclear power campaigns, the "post-modern" media -- run by propaganda artists who were taught in college that lying for a "good cause" was better than telling the truth. Those are the mediots who are running our media today.

Culturally, the Nazis would have felt right at home with that attack on Western rationalism, capitalism, and freedom of thought. It was exactly what they wanted. The Nazis were Post-Modernists. Modernity was their enemy. Hitler characteristically called Albert Einstein's relativity theory "Jewish science." Back in Moscow, Jozef Stalin promoted an attack on science by peddling fraudulent agricultural genetics. Stalin thought he could discipline his marching ranks of wheat stalks to grow taller by force, encouraged by his fraudulent "geneticist" Trofim Lysenko. Both Hitler and Stalin hated real science. They had real scientists sent to concentration camps.

The reason is of course that real science is about telling the truth. That is why "global warming" is also a totalitarian scheme; it's fraudulent science. It is also why the Left cannot openly debate the pros and cons of Central Planning in American medicine. They are not happy with searching out the truth.

And I'm afraid, that is also why Nancy Pelosi has to imagine "people with swastikas" flooding the Town Hall meetings in America, to fight against all the Good and Noble people like herself. Nancy is a certifiable airhead, but the beliefs echoing in her head come from decades of ideological indoctrination -- of the Totalitarian Romantic kind. People like Ms. Pelosi have been given all the answers by the ideologues of the Left. That is why their minds are shut so air tight.

Let's not call them names, our Totalitarian Romantics of today.

But let's not forget their historical antecedents either.

Hint: It's not Washington, Madison, Jefferson or Lincoln.

[karate kid x]

George Bush, who was an even bigger moron than Obama and his REALLY shady Pal Cheney, were compared to Hitler, Nazis, Inquisitioners, you name it, on almost a daily basis (and maybe even by me :eek: ) Is Obama somehow sacrosanct? And Pelosi...special place in hell for women that shaft other women for political expediency...but I digress...

The entire problem is...NO ONE, NOT ONE DAMN PERSON is allowed to question the words, deeds, motivations of "The Great One . After a bought and paid for primary, where the outcome was pre-ordaned and a general election that had so many Media with their heads in Obamas lap you could hear the sucking noise from 2000 miles away, Obama just can't friggin' believe that he might not get his way on this. And that is all beside the point, this proposed legislation is LOUSY and neither obama or his thugs in Congress can make it "un-lousy" unless they shit-can it and start over.

And...even if Letterman was not talking about the younger daughter??? It was a SEXIST and shitty thing to say and was not funny from any woman's perpective. Men...you guys are totally oblivious until it's your daughter, your wife or you Mother.

What do you mean that you're not allowed to question the president? you question the president every single day are you posting from jail or what?

[karate kid x]

so, lets just call them "totalitarian romantics".....
From: american thinker
august 08, 2009
nancy's nazis (http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/08/nancys_nazis.html)
by james lewis


she's not calling them nazis!!! Grow some brain cells

[cinnamongirl]

Comparing modern-day elected officials to Nazis (Bush, Obama, or otherwise) is beyond wrong. It's intellectually lazy at best, and so very insulting to the memory of actual victims of Nazi crimes.

[The_Basseteer]

she's not calling them nazis!!! Grow some brain cells

The "Totalitarian Romantics" refers to those who are now initiating Kristallnacht tactics at the Town Hall meetings, and like the Jews were blamed for the violence of Kristallnacht so will the Conservatives be blamed for the violence WHEN it does erupt.
(If those conservatives and republicans would just accept that P-BO won, and quit stirring the pot all would be right with the world)

[foxyladi]

poor nancy is coming unglued.:rotfl:

[karate kid x]

The "Totalitarian Romantics" refers to those who are now initiating Kristallnacht tactics at the Town Hall meetings, and like the Jews were blamed for the violence of Kristallnacht so will the Conservatives be blamed for the violence WHEN it does erupt.
(If those conservatives and republicans would just accept that P-BO won, and quit stirring the pot all would be right with the world)

she's not calling them totalitarian romantics either


Take a step back and look at the logic. unless you assume that the protestors are actually in-league with obama, your logic is downright contradictory. I can't tell what side you're on, the protectors or the healthcare bill supporters.

[Suzan]

Quote:
It's difficult for mere mortals like us to fully grasp the enormity of the Democrats' hypocrisy. Put aside all that talk of dissent being the highest form of patriotism. Overlook that Democrats would have upended jerry cans of gasoline and immolated themselves in protest if the Bush administration had asked people to inform on their neighbors.

This is funny--and true!

[The_Basseteer]

she's not calling them totalitarian romantics either


Take a step back and look at the logic. unless you assume that the protestors are actually in-league with obama, your logic is downright contradictory. I can't tell what side you're on, the protectors or the healthcare bill supporters.

I'm calling the Dems, the Liberals and the Left, Post-Modern Totalitarian Romantics...that was the point of the article from American Thinker. It was also the point of the signs at the town hall meetings, the swastika with the slashed red circle around it..NO NAZIS

[foxyladi]

now we are being called un American.just for questioning,go figure

[JLB123]

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/var/plain/storage/images/media/obama_index_graphics/august_2009/obama_index_august_10_2009/239256-1-eng-US/obama_index_august_10_2009.jpg

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/var/plain/storage/images/media/obama_total_approval_graphics/august_2009/obama_total_approval_august_10_2009/239259-1-eng-US/obama_total_approval_august_10_2009.jpg


:rotfl:

[JLB123]

Generic Congressional Ballot

Generic Ballot: Republicans 43%, Democrats 38%

Tuesday, August 04, 2009

Support for Republican congressional candidates has risen to its highest level in recent years, giving the GOP a five-point lead over Democrats in the latest Congressional Ballot and stretching the out-of-power party's lead to six weeks in a row.


The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey shows that 43% would vote for their district’s Republican congressional candidate while 38% would opt for his or her Democratic opponent.


Democratic support is down two points from last week and is just one point above its lowest level measured over the past year. Support for Republican candidates is up one point from last week.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/generic_congressional_ballot


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