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Spang
08-10-2009, 11:54 PM
DETROIT -- With the "cash for clunkers" program generating more than 245,000 vehicle sales in two weeks, car dealers intensified pressure on auto makers Monday to ramp up production.

Dealers around the country scrambled to find fuel-efficient vehicles that qualify for the program to fill their lots. They also voiced concerns that the extra $2 billion Congress approved for the plan last week won't last through September.

"I am trying to buy new cars wherever I can find them," said Alan Helfman vice president of River Oaks Chrysler Jeep in Houston. Mr. Helfman said he has 50 new vehicles on his lot compared with 320 normally. "Any bump in production would be fantastic."

Chrysler Group LLC has added shifts and overtime at some of its plants. General Motors Co. said it is likely to increase production, but hasn't made any decisions. Ford Motor Co. said it won't make any announcement until early September.

More than $1.03 billion has already been paid out to cover the 245,384 vehicles traded-in under the program designed to replace gas guzzlers with more fuel-efficient vehicles, according to the U.S. Department of Transportation. Another $2 billion is now being funneled into the program, which is slated to run through November.

Starting last year, the Big Three U.S. auto makers began to cut back production to cope with swelling inventories as consumers skipped purchases amid the recession. During the bankruptcies of GM and Chrysler, both auto makers idled their plants, further reducing supply. Heading into July, it appeared auto makers finally had control of their inventories.

That changed as the government's clunkers program set off a flurry of buying. Even consumers who didn't qualify for the program made purchases. Under the program, formally known as the Car Allowance Rebate System, a customer who trades in a vehicle rated at 18 miles per gallon or less qualifies for a government voucher of $3,500 or $4,500 to buy a new car rated at 22 mpg or more. The allowance goes to the dealer, who must scrap the old vehicle.

The average claim is $4,197, which means that more rebates of $4,500 have been paid than those for $3,500, according to the Transportation Department.

While Ford and GM are still weighing whether to boost production, Chrysler is taking a more aggressive approach. The auto maker, which is being managed by Italian auto maker Fiat SpA, notified workers at its Warren, Mich., pickup-truck assembly plant that they will work overtime on three Saturdays starting August 29, according to two United Auto Workers officials who received details of the plan but asked not to be identified. The plant produces Dodge Rams. More overtime could be scheduled in October, they said.

Also on Monday, Chrysler restored the third-shift to its Windsor, Ontario, minivan plant. The plant assembles the Dodge Grand Caravan, Chrysler Town & Country and Volkswagen Routan. The company ran its Toldeo plant -- home to the Jeep Wrangler -- on overtime last week.

Chrysler spokesman Max Gates had no comment on production schedules.

GM has said it would likely increase production if the clunker program continued, but no announcement has been made. A Ford spokeswoman said the company wouldn't discuss production plans until early September.

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Laura Cereta
08-10-2009, 11:59 PM
That changed as the government's clunkers program set off a flurry of buying. Even consumers who didn't qualify for the program made purchases. Under the program, formally known as the Car Allowance Rebate System, a customer who trades in a vehicle rated at 18 miles per gallon or less qualifies for a government voucher of $3,500 or $4,500 to buy a new car rated at 22 mpg or more. The allowance goes to the dealer, who must scrap the old vehicle.

The average claim is $4,197, which means that more rebates of $4,500 have been paid than those for $3,500, according to the Transportation Department.



Has it been confirmed yet that dealers have actually been paid?

VotingHillary
08-11-2009, 12:28 AM
It was really easy to find these cars long before the GOVERNMENT decided to subsidize irresponsibility.

I guess me and my 9-year-old clunker that gets 35 MPG highway will just have to make it through another year.

TheTaoOfBill
08-11-2009, 12:37 AM
God! Cash for Clunkers would have been a great plan to have like 10 years ago!

TheTaoOfBill
08-11-2009, 12:38 AM
It was really easy to find these cars long before the GOVERNMENT decided to subsidize irresponsibility.

I guess me and my 9-year-old clunker that gets 35 MPG highway will just have to make it through another year.

I still don't understand how this is subsidizing irresponsibility?

VotingHillary
08-11-2009, 12:51 AM
I still don't understand how this is subsidizing irresponsibility?

Because we knew 9 years ago, hell we knew back in the Carter era, we needed to use fuel more wisely. Instead, folks bought SUVs, Hummers and other low-mileage cars. Now, those that did behave responsibly and bought cars with good MPG get to bail out the idiots that bought cars for "show", for ego.

PA_Voter
08-11-2009, 02:46 AM
It was really easy to find these cars long before the GOVERNMENT decided to subsidize irresponsibility.

I guess me and my 9-year-old clunker that gets 35 MPG highway will just have to make it through another year.

Don't forget, each American has racked up the debt to pay for this as well, but each and every American only has to add $10 to your budget so far for the clunkers plus since the cars are being destroyed, expect to pay more for repair parts! And like you, I'll be sticking with my 14-year old car that gets 31 MPG AVERAGE! If your car is just 9-years old, it might just make it another 5 years like mine! (Good luck!)

TheTaoOfBill
08-11-2009, 03:18 AM
Because we knew 9 years ago, hell we knew back in the Carter era, we needed to use fuel more wisely. Instead, folks bought SUVs, Hummers and other low-mileage cars. Now, those that did behave responsibly and bought cars with good MPG get to bail out the idiots that bought cars for "show", for ego.

You're right. For decades it's been a struggle to convince Americans that fuel efficient cars are important. And seeing a hummer on the road ticks me off just as much as anyone.

But if your anger comes from all the people who bought inefficient cars then I really don't see what your problem is with the CARS program. This program is taking those inefficient gas guzzlers off the road and replacing them with fuel efficient ones.

This program has probably been one of the most successful in getting Americans to buy cars with better fuel standards. And you want to throw that away because you think those people deserve punishment rather than reward?

What good would that do us?

If it makes you feel better the amount of money you saved with your 35MPG car in the 9 years you've had it is probably far greater than the 4500 dollar credit they are getting.

VotingHillary
08-11-2009, 03:55 AM
You're right. For decades it's been a struggle to convince Americans that fuel efficient cars are important. And seeing a hummer on the road ticks me off just as much as anyone.

But if your anger comes from all the people who bought inefficient cars then I really don't see what your problem is with the CARS program. This program is taking those inefficient gas guzzlers off the road and replacing them with fuel efficient ones.

This program has probably been one of the most successful in getting Americans to buy cars with better fuel standards. And you want to throw that away because you think those people deserve punishment rather than reward?

What good would that do us?

If it makes you feel better the amount of money you saved with your 35MPG car in the 9 years you've had it is probably far greater than the 4500 dollar credit they are getting.

No, it doesn't make me feel better that my hard-earned money is being used to subsidize the irresponsible. I and my wallet are sick to death of bailing out those that refused to behave in a responsible fashion.

sorry, Tao, I do appreciate your acknowledgement of the point I was making...but no, it doesn't make me, my wallet, my retirement that i will never see feel better supporting these folks.

TheTaoOfBill
08-11-2009, 04:15 AM
No, it doesn't make me feel better that my hard-earned money is being used to subsidize the irresponsible. I and my wallet are sick to death of bailing out those that refused to behave in a responsible fashion.

sorry, Tao, I do appreciate your acknowledgement of the point I was making...but no, it doesn't make me, my wallet, my retirement that i will never see feel better supporting these folks.

So would you have supported a trade in program that accepted all cars? Not just gas guzzlers?

mavfin
08-11-2009, 05:29 AM
So would you have supported a trade in program that accepted all cars? Not just gas guzzlers?

Let the irresponsible pay for their own damned gashogs, instead of stealing money out of my taxpaying pocket to fix their choice in vehicles.

foxyladi
08-11-2009, 09:13 AM
It was really easy to find these cars long before the GOVERNMENT decided to subsidize irresponsibility.

I guess me and my 9-year-old clunker that gets 35 MPG highway will just have to make it through another year.

mine too i just will not go in debt right now..[-X[-X

foxyladi
08-12-2009, 11:59 AM
there is a lot of people jumping on this band wagon.i hope they don't get repoed in six months..

Wyoming Dem
08-12-2009, 05:13 PM
NO CASH unless trading for a car that gets a MINIMUM of 35 miles to the gallon. NO HUMVEES-NO ESCALADES-NO Full-Sized sport utility vehicles of any kind. Otherwise, this is just another Obama/Dem Congress convoluted hijinks to make it look like they are doing something when in all actuality, what they are doing is nothing (and it also sucks...) And beyond all that, they are doing nothing but encouraging people to go further into debt...Barack Obama...and I quote: "Americans need to lighten their debt load and take responsibilty for buying too many things on credit." And I am paraphrasing some but that was the gist of his comments when Obama gave a speech (f**ker NEVER shuts up...) strengthening regulations against credit card companies, mortgage brokers and anyone else who sells items using credit. I am just about fed up with the hypocrisy, especially when this GUY wastes taxpayer money and FUEL, lots and lots and lots of fuel and emissions, flying his old lady to dinner in New York. "Don't do as I do do as I say." How can his supporters STILL, against all odds and all common sense, support a total and complete fraud? It just cracks me up...

foxyladi
08-12-2009, 08:04 PM
government motors is having a fire sale,:rotfl::rotfl:
hury hurry hurry.:rotfl:

The_Basseteer
08-13-2009, 02:55 AM
government motors is having a fire sale,:rotfl::rotfl:
hury hurry hurry.:rotfl:

I want to buy a Volkswagen Jetta Sportswagen TDI (diesel); they are back ordered six months...EPA milages estimates 41 mpg on the highway...people are reporting closer to 60. The things are almost sports cars top, speed of 128mph. But I don't think P-BO wants us driving fun cars..that can go far...


...and yes before Spang and Tao jump in I know I'm rambling.