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JLB123
08-12-2009, 02:16 AM
Even the far left knows Pelosi is a loon. :D


Obama's healthcare horror
Heads should roll -- beginning with Nancy Pelosi's!

By Camille Paglia


Aug. 12, 2009 | Buyer's remorse? Not me. At the North American summit in Guadalajara this week, President Obama resumed the role he is best at -- representing the U.S. with dignity and authority abroad. This is why I, for one, voted for Obama and continue to support him. The damage done to U.S. prestige by the feckless, buffoonish George W. Bush will take years to repair. Obama has barely begun the crucial mission that he was elected to do.

Having said that, I must confess my dismay bordering on horror at the amateurism of the White House apparatus for domestic policy. When will heads start to roll? I was glad to see the White House counsel booted, as well as Michelle Obama's chief of staff, and hope it's a harbinger of things to come. Except for that wily fox, David Axelrod, who could charm gold threads out of moonbeams, Obama seems to be surrounded by juvenile tinhorns, bumbling mediocrities and crass bully boys.

Case in point: the administration's grotesque mishandling of healthcare reform, one of the most vital issues facing the nation. Ever since Hillary Clinton's megalomaniacal annihilation of our last best chance at reform in 1993 (all of which was suppressed by the mainstream media when she was running for president), Democrats have been longing for that happy day when this issue would once again be front and center.

But who would have thought that the sober, deliberative Barack Obama would have nothing to propose but vague and slippery promises -- or that he would so easily cede the leadership clout of the executive branch to a chaotic, rapacious, solipsistic Congress? House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, whom I used to admire for her smooth aplomb under pressure, has clearly gone off the deep end with her bizarre rants about legitimate town-hall protests by American citizens. She is doing grievous damage to the party and should immediately step down.

There is plenty of blame to go around. Obama's aggressive endorsement of a healthcare plan that does not even exist yet, except in five competing, fluctuating drafts, makes Washington seem like Cloud Cuckoo Land. The president is promoting the most colossal, brazen bait-and-switch operation since the Bush administration snookered the country into invading Iraq with apocalyptic visions of mushroom clouds over American cities.

You can keep your doctor; you can keep your insurance, if you're happy with it, Obama keeps assuring us in soothing, lullaby tones. Oh, really? And what if my doctor is not the one appointed by the new government medical boards for ruling on my access to tests and specialists? And what if my insurance company goes belly up because of undercutting by its government-bankrolled competitor? Face it: Virtually all nationalized health systems, neither nourished nor updated by profit-driven private investment, eventually lead to rationing.

I just don't get it. Why the insane rush to pass a bill, any bill, in three weeks? And why such an abject failure by the Obama administration to present the issues to the public in a rational, detailed, informational way? The U.S. is gigantic; many of our states are bigger than whole European nations. The bureaucracy required to institute and manage a nationalized health system here would be Byzantine beyond belief and would vampirically absorb whatever savings Obama thinks could be made. And the transition period would be a nightmare of red tape and mammoth screw-ups, which we can ill afford with a faltering economy.

As with the massive boondoggle of the stimulus package, which Obama foolishly let Congress turn into a pork rut, too much has been attempted all at once; focused, targeted initiatives would, instead, have won wide public support. How is it possible that Democrats, through their own clumsiness and arrogance, have sabotaged healthcare reform yet again? Blaming obstructionist Republicans is nonsensical because Democrats control all three branches of government. It isn't conservative rumors or lies that are stopping healthcare legislation; it's the justifiable alarm of an electorate that has been cut out of the loop and is watching its representatives construct a tangled labyrinth for others but not for themselves. No, the airheads of Congress will keep their own plush healthcare plan -- it's the rest of us guinea pigs who will be thrown to the wolves.

With the Republican party leaderless and in backbiting disarray following its destruction by the ideologically incoherent George W. Bush, Democrats are apparently eager to join the hara-kiri brigade. What looked like smooth coasting to the 2010 election has now become a nail-biter. Both major parties have become a rats' nest of hypocrisy and incompetence. That, combined with our stratospheric, near-criminal indebtedness to China (which could destroy the dollar overnight), should raise signal flags. Are we like late Rome, infatuated with past glories, ruled by a complacent, greedy elite, and hopelessly powerless to respond to changing conditions?

What does either party stand for these days? Republican politicians, with their endless scandals, are hardly exemplars of traditional moral values. Nor have they generated new ideas for healthcare, except for medical savings accounts, which would be pathetically inadequate in a major crisis for anyone earning at or below a median income.

And what do Democrats stand for, if they are so ready to defame concerned citizens as the "mob" -- a word betraying a Marie Antoinette delusion of superiority to ordinary mortals. I thought my party was populist, attentive to the needs and wishes of those outside the power structure. And as a product of the 1960s, I thought the Democratic party was passionately committed to freedom of thought and speech.

But somehow liberals have drifted into a strange servility toward big government, which they revere as a godlike foster father-mother who can dispense all bounty and magically heal all ills. The ethical collapse of the left was nowhere more evident than in the near total silence of liberal media and Web sites at the Obama administration's outrageous solicitation to private citizens to report unacceptable "casual conversations" to the White House. If Republicans had done this, there would have been an angry explosion by Democrats from coast to coast. I was stunned at the failure of liberals to see the blatant totalitarianism in this incident, which the president should have immediately denounced. His failure to do so implicates him in it.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/paglia/2009/08/12/town_halls/

greenleaf
08-12-2009, 02:57 AM
This is a scathing assessment of Obama's domestic performance from an Obama supporter. The healthcare "plan" is a bait-and-switch deal indeed.
And Obama's "soothing lullaby tones" aren't reassuring the masses this time.

Wyoming Dem
08-12-2009, 09:25 AM
Camille Paglia I need to send her a "Thank You" card and see if I can name her as a beneficiary in my will...Everything she says is absolutely true and for whatever reason, she was able to come through Kool Aide detox with a clear head and an unbiased constitution.

But who would have thought that the sober, deliberative Barack Obama would have nothing to propose but vague and slippery promises -- or that he would so easily cede the leadership clout of the executive branch to a chaotic, rapacious, solipsist Congress? House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, whom I used to admire for her smooth aplomb under pressure, has clearly gone off the deep end with her bizarre rants about legitimate town-hall protests by American citizens. She is doing grievous damage to the party and should immediately step down.

I would have thought it based on his track record of yacking all the time and accomplishing nothing.

And Pelosi..a disgrace to this country and a disgrace to women everywhere.

There is plenty of blame to go around. Obama's aggressive endorsement of a health care plan that does not even exist yet, except in five competing, fluctuating drafts, makes Washington seem like Cloud Cuckoo Land. The president is promoting the most colossal, brazen bait-and-switch operation since the Bush administration snookered the country into invading Iraq with apocalyptic visions of mushroom clouds over American cities.

HALLELUJAH...About f**king time someone stood up and said what has been obvious from day one.

But somehow liberals have drifted into a strange servility toward big government, which they revere as a godlike foster father-mother who can dispense all bounty and magically heal all ills. The ethical collapse of the left was nowhere more evident than in the near total silence of liberal media and Web sites at the Obama administration's outrageous solicitation to private citizens to report unacceptable "casual conversations" to the White House. If Republicans had done this, there would have been an angry explosion by Democrats from coast to coast. I was stunned at the failure of liberals to see the blatant totalitarianism in this incident, which the president should have immediately denounced. His failure to do so implicates him in it.

The BUCK NAKED EMPEROR has just been outed by one of his own...

Kbentleyis
08-12-2009, 09:41 AM
This is a great statement of truth. I don't understand as well, where are the liberals when it comes to this last week? Have they run out of excuses for Fraudicus?

But somehow liberals have drifted into a strange servility toward big government, which they revere as a godlike foster father-mother who can dispense all bounty and magically heal all ills. The ethical collapse of the left was nowhere more evident than in the near total silence of liberal media and Web sites at the Obama administration's outrageous solicitation to private citizens to report unacceptable "casual conversations" to the White House. If Republicans had done this, there would have been an angry explosion by Democrats from coast to coast. I was stunned at the failure of liberals to see the blatant totalitarianism in this incident, which the president should have immediately denounced. His failure to do so implicates him in it.

hobbitt
08-12-2009, 09:48 AM
And Obama's "soothing lullaby tones" aren't reassuring the masses this time.


From the President:

"UPS and FedEx are doing just fine. It's the Post Office that's always having problems."


All together now, thank the great gods above that our health care system will be designed, implemented, and operated by the same folks who run the US Post Office.


The defenders of the still amorphous bill have made a considerable number of amateurish gaffes. Calling their constituents neo-Nazis, un-American, and dupes of unstated organizations; calling the drug & insurance companies evil - and then making deals with them; blaming the nasty Republicans for blocking legislation when we all know full well that the Democrats have a clear majority in federal government; and most spectacularly, offering little in the way of specificity while denouncing any objections as untrue, unfounded, scurrilous rumors.

foxyladi
08-12-2009, 10:00 AM
a great piece and i fully agree.buyers remorse??

greenleaf
08-12-2009, 12:28 PM
You can keep your doctor; you can keep your insurance, if you're happy with it, Obama keeps assuring us in soothing, lullaby tones. Oh, really? And what if my doctor is not the one appointed by the new government medical boards for ruling on my access to tests and specialists? And what if my insurance company goes belly up because of undercutting by its government-bankrolled competitor? Face it: Virtually all nationalized health systems, neither nourished nor updated by profit-driven private investment, eventually lead to rationing.

It's the very fact that they are repeating the same carefully worded mantra that makes me suspicious of what's being left out. So if my grandfathered policy has a change in terms or tries to add new members, I lose it? Grandfathered means we'll leave it for now but it will not exist in the future. What if Americans want to retain their freedom of choice for a multitude of private health insurance policies? The mantra does not say you will always be able to pick the private insurance you want. No it just "you can keep what you have" and the unspoken ifs are are crucially important.

foxyladi
08-12-2009, 12:32 PM
the devils in the detail.and they are not telling us those.
just too many if,s

devildog
08-12-2009, 01:12 PM
Another great article from Camille. I truly enjoy reading her publications.

foxyladi
08-12-2009, 06:26 PM
soothing lullaby tones to quiet the restless masses

greenleaf
08-12-2009, 07:49 PM
Has the Speaker spoken recently? Has Pelosi enlightened the masses in the last day or two?

foxyladi
08-12-2009, 07:52 PM
Has the Speaker spoken recently? Has Pelosi enlightened the masses in the last day or two?

i think they have hidden her in the cloakroom:rotfl:

greenleaf
08-12-2009, 08:00 PM
i think they have hidden her in the cloakroom:rotfl:

:rotfl:
If only they would.

foxyladi
08-18-2009, 05:20 PM
This is a scathing assessment of Obama's domestic performance from an Obama supporter. The healthcare "plan" is a bait-and-switch deal indeed.
And Obama's "soothing lullaby tones" aren't reassuring the masses this time.

when his supporters are upset.wow!!!!!!!!

NativeSun
08-18-2009, 06:22 PM
YAWN! One of the things I said the most during the campaign was in referrence to Obama's frequent comments on how he was going to "change how things are done in Washington". I always responded to the faith-blinded with, "Do you really think that Pelosi and Reid and Frank are going to sit back and hand the keys over to Obama? They've been wanting this control since before Obama was a community organizer."

Maverick
08-18-2009, 06:42 PM
It's the very fact that they are repeating the same carefully worded mantra that makes me suspicious of what's being left out. So if my grandfathered policy has a change in terms or tries to add new members, I lose it? Grandfathered means we'll leave it for now but it will not exist in the future. What if Americans want to retain their freedom of choice for a multitude of private health insurance policies? The mantra does not say you will always be able to pick the private insurance you want. No it just "you can keep what you have" and the unspoken ifs are are crucially important.

The House Bill specifically states that if, for any reason, you lose your coverage ... you must go to the Government option. This can be as basic as leaving your job to take another job ... your only option at the new job will be the Government option.

How long before there is only the Government option ... a few years?, a decade? a bit longer? It is a very subtle way to take it all ... just need to be patient to get to their end game

foxyladi
08-18-2009, 07:15 PM
YAWN! One of the things I said the most during the campaign was in referrence to Obama's frequent comments on how he was going to "change how things are done in Washington". I always responded to the faith-blinded with, "Do you really think that Pelosi and Reid and Frank are going to sit back and hand the keys over to Obama? They've been wanting this control since before Obama was a community organizer."

longer then that..he is their dream come true.

greenleaf
08-18-2009, 07:41 PM
The House Bill specifically states that if, for any reason, you lose your coverage ... you must go to the Government option. This can be as basic as leaving your job to take another job ... your only option at the new job will be the Government option.

How long before there is only the Government option ... a few years?, a decade? a bit longer? It is a very subtle way to take it all ... just need to be patient to get to their end game

As Camille said, it's the ol' bait and switch.

Kbentleyis
08-18-2009, 07:52 PM
AMEN! There is plenty of blame to go around. Obama's aggressive endorsement of a healthcare plan that does not even exist yet, except in five competing, fluctuating drafts, makes Washington seem like Cloud Cuckoo Land. The president is promoting the most colossal, brazen bait-and-switch operation since the Bush administration snookered the country into invading Iraq with apocalyptic visions of mushroom clouds over American cities.

You can keep your doctor; you can keep your insurance, if you're happy with it, Obama keeps assuring us in soothing, lullaby tones. Oh, really? And what if my doctor is not the one appointed by the new government medical boards for ruling on my access to tests and specialists? And what if my insurance company goes belly up because of undercutting by its government-bankrolled competitor? Face it: Virtually all nationalized health systems, neither nourished nor updated by profit-driven private investment, eventually lead to rationing.
And, another AMEN! Blaming obstructionist Republicans is nonsensical because Democrats control all three branches of government. It isn't conservative rumors or lies that are stopping healthcare legislation; it's the justifiable alarm of an electorate that has been cut out of the loop and is watching its representatives construct a tangled labyrinth for others but not for themselves. No, the airheads of Congress will keep their own plush healthcare plan -- it's the rest of us guinea pigs who will be thrown to the wolves.

floorrunner
08-19-2009, 04:14 AM
Finally some one actually gets it.