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BillDemo
08-13-2009, 07:33 AM
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB20001424052970203863204574346512956227346.html

Team Obama is suffering from Extended Campaign Syndrome. In an election, campaign staffers are often just trying to survive until the next week or the next primary. They cut corners because they are fatigued or under pressure.They can be purposely combative and even portray critics as enemies.

Carrying this mindset into the White House can get you into trouble, a lesson the Obama administration is now learning the hard way.

For example, there's a video being circulated online of Barack Obama telling the Illinois AFL-CIO in 2003, "I happen to be a proponent of a single payer universal health-care program . . . we may not get there immediately" and then telling an SEIU Health Care Forum in 2007, "I don't think we're going to be able to eliminate employer coverage immediately. There's going to be some transition process. I can envision a decade out or 15 years out or 20 years out where we've got a much more portable system."

The White House now insists that the president doesn't want to enact a single-payer health-care system or eliminate private insurance. What's more, a White House spokeswoman attacked the video, saying its compilers "Take a phrase here and there—they simply cherry-pick and put it together—and make it sound like he's saying something that he didn't really say."

That's laughable. Mr. Obama's remarks are straightforward and indisputable. Rather than saying his views have changed as he has worked to create a national consensus, the administration denies what is obviously true.

Last week, the White House asked Americans to report "fishy" information about health-insurance reform and its purveyors. Setting the record straight is one thing. Collecting information on critics in this vaguely threatening manner is quite another.

Much of the Democratic response to critics has been inappropriate or unpresidential. Take the reaction to the town-hall meetings taking place across the country. Many people are worried about their health care and a few are responding in unacceptable ways. But Democrats are portraying the opposition as an "angry mob" using, as House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer wrote in a USA Today op-ed, "un-American" tactics. Mr. Obama's "Organizing for America," a political group founded by the president to mobilize supporters, dismisses critics as tools of "insurance companies . . . stirring up fear with false rumors," without presenting a shred of evidence to back up the charge.

The White House may actually welcome this process fight if it is more interested in the state of mind of 60 Democratic senators and 256 Democratic House members than in what the public at large is thinking. It seems to believe attacking critics will reassure nervous members of Congress. The sideshow also distracts attention from the substance of Mr. Obama's plans, which is what is really hurting him.

For example, many small businesspeople are starting to figure out that under ObamaCare it will be cheaper to pay a penalty equal to 8% of payroll than to continue covering their employees' health insurance. How will people feel about Mr. Obama's claim that everyone can keep their existing coverage when their employer tells them it makes better economic sense to dump them into the government-run option than to keep paying for private insurance?

The administration's rhetorical tricks extend to issues beyond health care. The economy continues shedding jobs, yet the administration keeps saying the president's policies save jobs. Last Thursday, Christina Romer, chairwoman of the Council of Economic Advisers, proclaimed at the Economic Club of Washington that the stimulus package has saved "about 485,000 jobs" since February.

The following day, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reported that 247,000 Americans lost their jobs in July. What Team Obama says not only runs counter to the experience of ordinary Americans, it's causing many to conclude that their White House is misleading them.

The administration could strain its credibility further when it updates the government's fiscal projections in the soon-to-be-released report called the "Mid-Session Review." It's likely that the president will blame his predecessor for a larger than previously projected deficit.

It's true that the deficit was $455 billion when Mr. Obama took office, with $325.3 billion of that from the bank rescue bill Sen. Obama supported.

But since Jan. 20, Mr. Obama has only added to the red ink. He has signed into law a $787 billion stimulus package and a $33 billion expansion of the State Child Health Insurance Program. He's greenlighted spending another $330.4 billion in bank rescue money. And he signed a $410 billion bill to fund discretionary spending for the second half of the current fiscal year, an increase of 8% on an annual basis. By supporting each spending initiative, he robbed himself of the ability to credibly blame others for the size of the deficit.

Life inside the White House is far different from life inside a presidential campaign. The spotlight is brighter and scrutiny greater. While the posse in the White House pressroom is still slow to challenge Mr. Obama, ordinary people are forming their own judgments and they are increasingly negative.

Mr. Obama's exaggerations, misdirection and efforts to divide Americans are becoming more obvious. What worked in the Obama campaign will often backfire on the Obama presidency. But old habits are hard to leave on the trail.

greenleaf
08-13-2009, 07:53 AM
Rove actually makes some good points and he certainly knows a thing or two about a permanent campaign.
I hated the perpetual divisiveness of the Bush years and things have only gotten worse under Obama.

smiledr
08-13-2009, 09:58 AM
I just read this article and was getting ready to post it. Rove does make good points.

foxyladi
08-13-2009, 11:05 AM
please he is just stating the obvious:cool:

Alces95
08-13-2009, 11:17 AM
Rove actually makes some good points and he certainly knows a thing or two about a permanent campaign.
I hated the perpetual divisiveness of the Bush years and things have only gotten worse under Obama.

I think this is my greatest disappointment with this presidency so far. I voted for Obama because I was tired of the split. I thought the country would come together but it hasn't. Obama and his team hold fault, the media holds fault and we all hold some fault. Campaign mode never turned off. You either were for Obama or against whatever he was for.

Case in point, this forum. Who would have thought last January 2008 that this forum would have more postings against health care reform (A HRC blog forum!!!!) than for it.

Kbentleyis
08-13-2009, 11:32 AM
As many of us have experienced first hand, this is very true. While the posse in the White House pressroom is still slow to challenge Mr. Obama, ordinary people are forming their own judgments and they are increasingly negative.

Mr. Obama's exaggerations, misdirection and efforts to divide Americans are becoming more obvious. What worked in the Obama campaign will often backfire on the Obama presidency. But old habits are hard to leave on the trail.

greenleaf
08-13-2009, 12:14 PM
I think this is my greatest disappointment with this presidency so far. I voted for Obama because I was tired of the split. I thought the country would come together but it hasn't. Obama and his team hold fault, the media holds fault and we all hold some fault. Campaign mode never turned off. You either were for Obama or against whatever he was for.

Case in point, this forum. Who would have thought last January 2008 that this forum would have more postings against health care reform (A HRC blog forum!!!!) than for it.

I'm not against anything Obama is for. I complimented him and this congress for enacting credit card legislation. When they pass something else I approve of I'll acknowledge it.
I'm not against some healthcare reform but I'm against H.R. 3200. Obama, Pelosi and crew have totally bungled this issue, IMO.
They have lost the trust of too many. A good start would be to stop insulting huge segments of the population.

timepassages
08-13-2009, 08:02 PM
[-XNone of this was hidden, he campained on all this. The told us, what he would do, if only you would listen. He past record, speaches he made, even old radio tapes, told all americans what he would do if he was elected. How can anyone be surprised, unless americans were all deaf and blind.

Lealy
08-13-2009, 08:20 PM
[-XNone of this was hidden, he campaigned on all this. The told us, what he would do, if only you would listen. He past record, speeches he made, even old radio tapes, told all Americans what he would do if he was elected. How can anyone be surprised, unless Americans were all deaf and blind.

You are right but so many were deaf and blind, many around me in fact. My mother in law told me one day that the speech O gave a few years ago was just propaganda and that I should not believe it although it was his voice on the tape. When we told her about cap and tax she called her local councilman who told her that all those requirements about updating your home to sell it only applied to "crack houses", I laughed for days but she believed. Still others only heard what they wanted platitudes and utopia so people really are surprised, sad but true.

I just keep marking down the list I had in my head before election and he has not missed a one.

foxyladi
08-14-2009, 12:19 PM
he is waiting till his second term to go to work.:D:D

hobbitt
08-14-2009, 02:33 PM
Case in point, this forum. Who would have thought last January 2008 that this forum would have more postings against health care reform (A HRC blog forum!!!!) than for it.

Just for the record, I am NOT against health care reform. But I am most definitely against HR 3200. And I am against Waxman and Baucus (rhymes with "caucus" hmmmm...werrry interesting ) shutting out opposition views. And I am against the administration making deals with Federation of American Hospitals, Phrma and SEIU and whoever else -- then saying that they did not. And I am against yet another huge bill which MUST be passed immediately or the world as we know it will end.

And I am definitely against being labeled un-American, lowlife racist teabagger dupe just because I have objections.

Alces95
08-14-2009, 03:00 PM
Just for the record, I am NOT against health care reform. But I am most definitely against HR 3200. And I am against Waxman and Baucus (rhymes with "caucus" hmmmm...werrry interesting ) shutting out opposition views. And I am against the administration making deals with Federation of American Hospitals, Phrma and SEIU and whoever else -- then saying that they did not. And I am against yet another huge bill which MUST be passed immediately or the world as we know it will end.

And I am definitely against being labeled un-American, lowlife racist teabagger dupe just because I have objections.

People seem to have taken my statement the wrong way... and in doing so showed what I meant. People, on both sides are still in campaign mode; only going negative.

I haven't seen much here or anywhere what people are for. In your above quote, you only state what you are against.

True dialogue would be great. :)>-

Laura Cereta
08-14-2009, 03:35 PM
I think this is my greatest disappointment with this presidency so far. I voted for Obama because I was tired of the split. I thought the country would come together but it hasn't. Obama and his team hold fault, the media holds fault and we all hold some fault. Campaign mode never turned off. You either were for Obama or against whatever he was for.

Case in point, this forum. Who would have thought last January 2008 that this forum would have more postings against health care reform (A HRC blog forum!!!!) than for it.

This forum has gone through a lot of changes... that's true.

I found, personally, through my intense work with Hillary supporters through 2008 that they came from all backgrounds and held all kinds of different political views.

In terms of Obama not bringing the country together-- that is only half his fault. Everyone else is being partisan as well. The bigger problem here, in my mind, is that people actually believed his empty rhetoric in the first place. Why? It was never logical. He has no record of doing anything but campaigning. Why did anyone think he could actually stop that and govern? To me, these are important questions because I wonder how many times the majority of the American public are going to allow the wool to be pulled over their eyes? Bush? Obama? We can't do better then that?!

hobbitt
08-14-2009, 05:22 PM
In your above quote, you only state what you are against.

True dialogue would be great. :)>-

Your choice of the phrase "health care reform" spurred my response. I believe there is a world of difference between "health care reform" and what HR 3200 et al are proposing.



The "what I am for" part is evident in about 30 or so health-care related messages I have posted in the past two months.

foxyladi
08-14-2009, 06:59 PM
I just read this article and was getting ready to post it. Rove does make good points.

very good.

smiledr
08-15-2009, 12:13 AM
I haven't seen much here or anywhere what people are for. In your above quote, you only state what you are against.

True dialogue would be great. :)>-

Good ideas in this post:

Post (http://www.commongroundpolitics.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=47915&highlight=ideal+healthcare)

Alces95
08-15-2009, 10:08 AM
Good ideas in this post:

Post (http://www.commongroundpolitics.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=47915&highlight=ideal+healthcare)

Agreed. That is a great thread.