View Full Version : Who was the reporter that Reagan told to shut up?
Nancy Kallitechnis
08-13-2009, 09:35 AM
I recall during Reagan's presidency when he was at a press conference and a reporter was rude he silenced the reporter by saying "Oh, shut up!" and that made big news. Does anyone know who the reporter was or what press conference this occurred in? Thanks!
Nancy
foxyladi
08-13-2009, 11:07 AM
i remember that but can't recall who the reporter was.
Kbentleyis
08-13-2009, 11:38 AM
Sorry Nancy, I can't remember. I'll see if I can find out.
Nancy Kallitechnis
08-13-2009, 12:28 PM
Sorry Nancy, I can't remember. I'll see if I can find out.
Thanks for checking! I checked six pages of Google but couldn't find anything. I recall that Reagan's approval rating was higher after the incident. That indicates that when male politicians are severe with reporters that cross the line they are seen as good leaders, whereas women generally don't get credit for doing the same thing as we've seen with the media reporting of Hillary's recent rebuke of a sexist question.
JLB123
08-13-2009, 12:35 PM
It was just a heckler, not a reporter.
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/951098/
Kbentleyis
08-13-2009, 01:04 PM
JLB, I believe you are right. I went to SCOUR and the Wash. Post, and they do report he said it, but didn't give the name of the person, and was not noted as a reporter.
That's all I could come up with Nancy.
Nancy Kallitechnis
08-13-2009, 01:28 PM
It was just a heckler, not a reporter.
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/951098/
The link that you provided leads to one sentence: "It was just a heckler, not a reporter." And the sentence doesn't even have the name of the person who posted it. Thus, it's not a credible source.
JLB123
08-13-2009, 01:44 PM
The link that you provided leads to one sentence: "It was just a heckler, not a reporter." And the sentence doesn't even have the name of the person who posted it. Thus, it's not a credible source.
The link leads to a video of the incident.
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/951098/
I am the one who said it was a heckler, because reporters don't shout and scream while candidates are giving speeches just before the election. I also remember watching it live on TV when I was younger.
Nancy Kallitechnis
08-13-2009, 02:04 PM
The link leads to a video of the incident.
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/951098/
I am the one who said it was a heckler, because reporters don't shout and scream while candidates are giving speeches just before the election. I also remember watching it live on TV when I was younger.
I was looking on the page for a story or link and couldn't find one, but if you say there's a link to the video then it is a credible source.
I did find the incident on YouTube and an MSNBC reporter refers to the person as a heckler which apparently they are since they're interrupting Reagan's political speech.
YouTube - President Reagan tells a heckler to shutup (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NowLZlfx5qw)
The incident occurred on November 3, 1980 one day before Reagan won the presidency with a 10% lead and 489 electoral votes versus Carter's 49 electoral votes. It's important to note that Reagan was being aggressive in a way that Hillary Clinton was not allowed to be during the recent sexist incident at her stop in Africa.
The video shows Ronald Reagan trying to speak at the podium, a heckler making loud objections, then Reagan becomes visibly upset, faces the heckler with his face contorted in anger and yells, “Awe, shut up!” at which point people in the background smile, rise and applaud his aggressiveness.
The MSNBC reporter in the video says, "That heckler was never heard from again but Ronald Reagan sure was. When we come back the Great Communicator…"
Note how an angry outburst by Ronald Reagan is shown to describe him as the "Great Communicator" which is a name he was known for. Yet, it's impossible to imagine the sexist media referring to Hillary Clinton as the Great Communicator if she makes an angry outburst. Remember, Hillary was faced with a sexist question which is more offensive than a loud heckler, yet the media rarely mention that she was fully justified in her severe rebuke of the sexism. The question was: "We've all heard about the Chinese contracts in this country. The interference is from the World Bank against this contract. What does Mr Clinton think through the mouth of Mrs Clinton and what does Mr Mutombo think on this situation? Thank you very much." http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6011874/Hillary-Clinton-my-husband-Bill-Clinton-is-not-secretary-of-state.html
The question is clearly sexist because the U.S. Secretary of State-top foreign relations diplomat-is being asked what her husband thinks of a current foreign relations issue. And note the phrase "through the mouth of Mrs. Clinton" indicates he wants to make her into a ventriloquist's dummy. And note the Mrs. instead of Madam Secretary which is Clinton's title. Instead of admitting the question was sexist and Hillary was justified to rebuke the questioner, the media almost all refer to her as making a mistake due to jet lag, etc. It doesn't matter if there was an alleged mistranslation, the question was very sexist and offensive to any woman politician. Hillary Clinton should be applauded like Reagan was.
hobbitt
08-13-2009, 02:34 PM
I have nothing to back this up, other than dim memory, but Sam Donaldson?
foxyladi
08-13-2009, 06:42 PM
I was looking on the page for a story or link and couldn't find one, but if you say there's a link to the video then it is a credible source.
I did find the incident on YouTube and an MSNBC reporter refers to the person as a heckler which apparently they are since they're interrupting Reagan's political speech.
YouTube - President Reagan tells a heckler to shutup (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NowLZlfx5qw)
The incident occurred on November 3, 1980 one day before Reagan won the presidency with a 10% lead and 489 electoral votes versus Carter's 49 electoral votes. It's important to note that Reagan was being aggressive in a way that Hillary Clinton was not allowed to be during the recent sexist incident at her stop in Africa.
The video shows Ronald Reagan trying to speak at the podium, a heckler making loud objections, then Reagan becomes visibly upset, faces the heckler with his face contorted in anger and yells, “Awe, shut up!” at which point people in the background smile, rise and applaud his aggressiveness.
The MSNBC reporter in the video says, "That heckler was never heard from again but Ronald Reagan sure was. When we come back the Great Communicator…"
Note how an angry outburst by Ronald Reagan is shown to describe him as the "Great Communicator" which is a name he was known for. Yet, it's impossible to imagine the sexist media referring to Hillary Clinton as the Great Communicator if she makes an angry outburst. Remember, Hillary was faced with a sexist question which is more offensive than a loud heckler, yet the media rarely mention that she was fully justified in her severe rebuke of the sexism. The question was: "We've all heard about the Chinese contracts in this country. The interference is from the World Bank against this contract. What does Mr Clinton think through the mouth of Mrs Clinton and what does Mr Mutombo think on this situation? Thank you very much." http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6011874/Hillary-Clinton-my-husband-Bill-Clinton-is-not-secretary-of-state.html
The question is clearly sexist because the U.S. Secretary of State-top foreign relations diplomat-is being asked what her husband thinks of a current foreign relations issue. And note the phrase "through the mouth of Mrs. Clinton" indicates he wants to make her into a ventriloquist's dummy. And note the Mrs. instead of Madam Secretary which is Clinton's title. Instead of admitting the question was sexist and Hillary was justified to rebuke the questioner, the media almost all refer to her as making a mistake due to jet lag, etc. It doesn't matter if there was an alleged mistranslation, the question was very sexist and offensive to any woman politician. Hillary Clinton should be applauded like Reagan was.
hillarystamp!:e2:
NativeSun
08-15-2009, 05:28 PM
I have nothing to back this up, other than dim memory, but Sam Donaldson?
No, I think that was George H.W. Bush who did that. I think that Donaldson was grilling him on his inolvement in Iran-Contra during the '88 campaign and Bush Sr. lost it. Remeber Bush Sr. had that "wimp factor" image problem during the campaign and many thought that the outburst was pre-planned.
Ikasu
08-15-2009, 05:56 PM
No, I think that was George H.W. Bush who did that. I think that Donaldson was grilling him on his inolvement in Iran-Contra during the '88 campaign and Bush Sr. lost it. Remeber Bush Sr. had that "wimp factor" image problem during the campaign and many thought that the outburst was pre-planned.
Funny, the only president this past century to have served during war time (WWII) had a "wimp factor".
NativeSun
08-15-2009, 05:58 PM
Funny, the only president this past century to have served during war time (WWII) had a "wimp factor".
Actally, JFK also served in the Pacific during WWII and we all know about General Eisenhower and D-Day. Did you take the same history class with Obama?
Ikasu
08-15-2009, 06:01 PM
Actally, JFK also served in the Pacific during WWII and we all know about General Eisenhower and D-Day. Did you take the same history class with Obama?
Chill. My mistake. The point still stands. Presidential candidates who served during war time are sometimes branded as wimps. See McGovern.
foxyladi
08-15-2009, 06:01 PM
Regan had a temper he just kept it in check most of the time.
i remember at one of his debates they wanted to cut his time.he got upset.
NativeSun
08-15-2009, 06:17 PM
Chill. My mistake. The point still stands. Presidential candidates who served during war time are sometimes branded as wimps. See McGovern.
Or are aloof like John Kerry. What an idiot! I would have sold my ass on the street corner before I ever would have voted for him!
Ikasu
08-15-2009, 06:24 PM
Or are aloof like John Kerry. What an idiot! I would have sold my ass on the street corner before I ever would have voted for him!
I'm progressive and I honestly don't blame you. I don't like all Dems, Kerry being one of them.
foxyladi
08-15-2009, 06:43 PM
I'm progressive and I honestly don't blame you. I don't like all Dems, Kerry being one of them.
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