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CGP
09-03-2009, 11:14 PM
READ @ FOX NEWS (http://whitehouse.blogs.foxnews.com/2009/09/03/the-public-option-options-or-not/)


For the first time in the white-hot debate over national health care reform, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi spoke approvingly of a bill that lacked the so-called public option, the government-financed move into private insurance markets.

Until today, Pelosi has described the public option, backed aggressively by more than 100 liberal House Democrats, as a key ingredient to passage of any House health reform package. But today she acknowledged aggressive talks to substitute a "trigger" mechanism that would hold the public option in abeyance for several years so Congress could evaluate the performance of the insurance industry and its ability or willingness to expand coverage or lower premiums.

"That is true," Pelosi said of stepped up talks on a trigger mechanism as a replacement for the public option. "But I don't know what particulars are of the trigger. Here we have a situation where in the Kennedy bill in the Senate, there is a public option, it's not as strong as the public option in the House bill. If they want no public option, but a trigger, you can be sure that the trigger will bring on a very robust public option. So, if I were advising insurance companies, I'd tell them take this bill the way it is now."

The Congressional Black Caucus urged Presdient Obama to keep the public option in any health care bill. Shortly after the CBC released its letter, Pelosi attempted to reverse field, saying in a statement she still backed a public option.

The Senate bill Pelosi referred to was passed out of the Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee that the late Sen. Edward Kennedy chaired. It has not been formally named after Kennedy, but many Democrats, in honoring Kennedy's pursuit of health care reform, have come to call the bill by his name. Sen. Robert Byrd, D-W.V., has called for Congress to name the final health care bill after Kennedy to memorialize his contribution to health care legislation throughout his nearly 47-year Senate career.

Briefed on Pelosi's remarks, one White House aide involved in health care strategy said: "That sounds like a start. It sounds as if there are a lot of different options when it comes to a trigger."

The White House is eager for House Democrats to move away from the public option to give President Obama maximum negotiating room and to take one of the most contentious issues of the health care debate off the table. Pelosi's comments do not eliminate the public option entirely, but do give Democratic leadership voice, for the very first time, to a trigger as an acceptable alternative.

Pelosi also said Democrats are ready for a fight on behalf of health care and haven't been frightened by intense public reaction and skepticism evident in health care town halls across the country.

"The best preparation for combat is combat," Pelosi said. "Members have been engaged in the trenches on this issue and when they come back to Washington they're ready for the fight for us to pass this. The American people need it and they will get it, insurance reform. The other side showed the poverty of their ideas, they had nothing really to say except to shout down people from hearing the facts."

Shortly after Pelosi spoke, the CBC released a lengthy letter to Obama urging him to defend the public option in his speech Wednesday to a joint session of Congress.

"We are deeply concerned about the current discussions surrounding health care reform and the possibility that current components of the bill - such as a robust public option and myriad health disparity elimination provisions - may be stricken in order to lower its cost to about $500 billion," the letter said.

The CBC also urged Obama to push for a "strong public health option that will allow the nation's more than 46 million uninsured Americans - more than half of whom are people of color - to finally have access to affordable, meaningful health care coverage no later than 2013."

Shortly thereafter, Pelosi released a statement attempting to clarify her earlier remarks about the public option and the trigger alternative.

"Any real change requires the inclusion of a strong public option to promote competition and bring down costs," Pelosi's statement said. "If a vigorous public option is not included, it would be a major victory for the health insurance industry. A bill without a strong public option will not pass the House. Eliminating the public option would be a major victory for the insurance companies who have rationed care, increased premiums and denied coverage."

A Democratic source said Pelosi did not mean to send mixed signals on the public option, but conceded her remarks were "not artful."

VotingHillary
09-03-2009, 11:25 PM
But today she acknowledged aggressive talks to substitute a "trigger" mechanism that would hold the public option in abeyance for several years so Congress could evaluate the performance of the insurance industry and its ability or willingness to expand coverage or lower premiums.

Congress with their finger on the "trigger"......God help us.

Wyoming Dem
09-03-2009, 11:46 PM
The Senate bill Pelosi referred to was passed out of the Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee that the late Sen. Edward Kennedy chaired. It has not been formally named after Kennedy, but many Democrats, in honoring Kennedy's pursuit of health care reform, have come to call the bill by his name. Sen. Robert Byrd, D-W.V., has called for Congress to name the final health care bill after Kennedy to memorialize his contribution to health care legislation throughout his nearly 47-year Senate career.

You just had to know that this was the next step for Obama and this Congress as the Health Care Bill was slowly sliding into a huge abyss where all lousy and crappy and un-passable legislation goes to die.
SMARMY, disgusting, pandering and pathetic...This Congress and this Administration have absolutely NO SHAME. Let's call it the "Mary Jo Does Not Matter" Health Bill or "The Chappaquiddick Is Forgiven" health bill or lets call it like it really is...DESPERATE, disgustingly transparent ploy to guilt people into voting for an atrocious bill simply so this Congress and this President can garner kudos for "getting it done". Old Teddy Boy would have gladly fallen on his sword for this (at least figuratively...Kennedys are nothing if not resilient) Why doesn't Obama and Pelosi just come out and say what really is going on...they are passing a "version" of this bill come hell or high water and they don't care if it sucks, if it bankrupts the country or if any of us like it or not.

As much as I detest Pelosi and Obama who are two pukes of a kind, this is worse than anything I could have imagined..they are *****...they will say or do anything to get their "fix" of power. This is a ***** and her pimp pouring something down our throats and making us swallow all in the name of self-promotion. I say F**K Teddy Boy and the lame ass, drunken horse he rode in on and I can only hope that Pelosi and Obama get what's coming to them in triplicate. Citizens of this country should be embarrassed and feel ashamed for ever electing such crappy, unqualified and ego-driven con men and women such as they are. Let Obama and his lackey's have it and run it into the ground and then they can feed off of each other. This just made me sick...

Using a dead man to get lousy legislation passed is a sure sign that these ass-hats will do anything to get what they want and that desperate times call for desperate measures...This stinks worse than Teddy Boys bloated, corpulent, decompossing corpse dose now that it is in the ground...you can smell it a mile or more away and the stink of this Congress and This President is only going to get worse.

VotingHillary
09-04-2009, 12:01 AM
You just had to know that this was the next step for Obama and this Congress as the Health Care Bill was slowly sliding into a huge abyss where all lousy and crappy and un-passable legislation goes to die.
SMARMY, disgusting, pandering and pathetic...This Congress and this Administration have absolutely NO SHAME. Let's call it the "Mary Jo Does Not Matter" Health Bill or "The Chappaquiddick Is Forgiven" health bill or lets call it like it really is...DESPERATE, disgustingly transparent ploy to guilt people into voting for an atrocious bill simply so this Congress and this President can garner kudos for "getting it done". Old Teddy Boy would have gladly fallen on his sword for this (at least figuratively...Kennedys are nothing if not resilient) Why doesn't Obama and Pelosi just come out and say what really is going on...they are passing a "version" of this bill come hell or high water and they don't care if it sucks, if it bankrupts the country or if any of us like it or not.

As much as I detest Pelosi and Obama who are two pukes of a kind, this is worse than anything I could have imagined..they are *****...they will say or do anything to get their "fix" of power. This is a ***** and her pimp pouring something down our throats and making us swallow all in the name of self-promotion. I say F**K Teddy Boy and the lame ass, drunken horse he rode in on and I can only hope that Pelosi and Obama get what's coming to them in triplicate. Citizens of this country should be embarrassed and feel ashamed for ever electing such crappy, unqualified and ego-driven con men and women such as they are. Let Obama and his lackey's have it and run it into the ground and then they can feed off of each other. This just made me sick...

Using a dead man to get lousy legislation passed is a sure sign that these ass-hats will do anything to get what they want and that desperate times call for desperate measures...This stinks worse than Teddy Boys bloated, corpulent, decompossing corpse dose now that it is in the ground...you can smell it a mile or more away and the stink of this Congress and This President is only going to get worse.

<....handing you a Prozac. :rotfl:

Seriously, you are going to have a heart attack, friend. EXHALE...the American people won the month of August and they will win September and onward.

The rose-colored glasses are off the citizens of this country. **==

Wyoming Dem
09-04-2009, 12:15 AM
<....handing you a Prozac. :rotfl:

Seriously, you are going to have a heart attack, friend. EXHALE...the American people won the month of August and they will win September and onward.

The rose-colored glasses are off the citizens of this country. **==
I may take up serious drinking...Can you believe this crapola? I KNEW Teddy Boy going cold was going to be something that they would figure out a way to use...I hope to hell that people in this country go on a rant and a half against this bill...Although it is beginning to appear that Obama and the Congress will totally disregard the will of the people. The Public option may be the death of them because Unions and others are saying it HAS TO HAVE a public option and with a public option, I don't think it will pass.
I will not be happy until Obama and this lame-assed congress are shown up for the fools and charlatans they really are.

VotingHillary
09-04-2009, 12:19 AM
I may take up serious drinking...Can you believe this crapola? I KNEW Teddy Boy going cold was going to be something that they would figure out a way to use...I hope to hell that people in this country go on a rant and a half against this bill...Although it is beginning to appear that Obama and the Congress will totally disregard the will of the people. The Public option may be the death of them because Unions and others are saying it HAS TO HAVE a public option and with a public option, I don't think it will pass.
I will not be happy until Obama and this lame-assed congress are shown up for the fools and charlatans they really are.

<...handing you TWO Prozacs, a margarita, shot of tequila, sipper of Baileys, assorted wines, a case of beer...etc! :D

PA_Voter
09-04-2009, 12:51 AM
<...handing you TWO Prozacs, a margarita, shot of tequila, sipper of Baileys, assorted wines, a case of beer...etc! :D

I think Wyoming needs a whole bottle of Prozac! And I have to ask, why would a Congress with a 29% approval rating do anything that the American people want done? And that number isn't really a lot lower than the last Congress, is it? So what went wrong when a portion were up for election in 2008??? I guess we didn't get any change we can believe in, did we?

CGP
09-04-2009, 02:21 AM
I may take up serious drinking...

If you eventually need REHAB, hopefully insurance or Medicare will cover it! You can tell them that Obama sent you.

Diagnosis: Acute Obamaitis.

Wyoming Dem
09-04-2009, 11:39 AM
If you eventually need REHAB, hopefully insurance or Medicare will cover it! You can tell them that Obama sent you.

Diagnosis: Acute Obamaitis.
I have REALLY GOOD insurance!

foxyladi
09-04-2009, 11:41 AM
Congress with their finger on the "trigger"......God help us.

someone should disarm this woman.