View Full Version : (Sep 15, 2009): "House Vote of Disapproval on Rep. Joe Wilson" (AP/NYT)
READ @ NYT (http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2009/09/15/us/politics/AP-US-House-RollCall-Heckling.html)
The 240-179 roll call Tuesday by which the House passed a resolution of disapproval against Rep. Joe Wilson, R-S.C., for Wilson's ''You lie!'' shout during President Barack Obama's health care address to a joint session of Congress.
A ''yes'' vote is a vote to pass the resolution.
Voting yes were 233 Democrats and 7 Republicans.
Voting no were 12 Democrats and 167 Republicans.
Voting present were 5 Democrats.
X denotes those not voting.
Present denotes those who voted they were ''present'' at the time of the vote but did not vote yes or no on the issue.
There is 1 vacancy in the 435-member House.
Click on the link to see the state-by-state breakdown of votes...
agatha
09-15-2009, 10:32 PM
I think they will come to regret this. :thinking:
Eminence
09-15-2009, 10:33 PM
Well, good for Congress for showing that they are at least able to pass something. :laughing:
Ikasu
09-15-2009, 10:42 PM
What a waste of time.
YouTube - House Floor Debate: Resolution on Rep. Joe Wilson
VotingHillary
09-15-2009, 10:52 PM
What a waste of time.
genericstamp!
VotingHillary
09-15-2009, 10:55 PM
PENNSYLVANIA
Democrats -- Altmire, Y; Brady, Y; Carney, Y; Dahlkemper, Y; Doyle, Y; Fattah, Y; Holden, Y; Kanjorski, Y; Murphy, Patrick, Y; Murtha, Y; Schwartz, Y; Sestak, X.
Sestak was smart to sit this one out. He is running against Specter here in the Dem primaries.
Eminence
09-15-2009, 10:58 PM
Another article from the NYT that just came out a few minutes ago on this subject...
House Formally Rebukes Wilson for ‘You Lie’ Outburst (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/16/us/politics/16wilson.html?hp)
WASHINGTON — Representative Joe Wilson was formally rebuked by the House on Tuesday for his outburst during President Obama’s health care address. The vote came after a Congressional clash over civility that showcased the deep partisan divisions in the House.
In a mainly party line vote of 240 to 179, the House held that by shouting “You lie” during the president’s speech Mr. Wilson, a South Carolina Republican, committed a “breach of decorum and degraded the proceedings of the joint session, to the discredit of the House.”
The resolution was the latest — and many lawmakers hoped final — development in an episode that has generated significant public attention. The outburst prompted millions of dollars in political contributions to both parties and made Mr. Wilson a hero to some and an embarrassment and symbol of Republican disrespect to the president to others.
Seven Republicans joined 233 Democrats in approving the resolution; 12 Democrats joined Mr. Wilson and 166 other Republicans in opposing it.
Leading Democrats said the resolution put on the record that the House “disapproves of the behavior of the representative from South Carolina, Mr. Wilson, during the joint session of Congress held on Sept. 9, 2009,” and was needed to protect the integrity of the House and deter such acts in the future.
“This is about the rules of this House and reprehensible conduct,” said Representative James E. Clyburn of South Carolina, the No. 3 Democrat in the House and a home-state colleague of Mr. Wilson who led the Democratic argument for the resolution.
Democrats characterized the sanction as mild and said they would not have pursued any action at all had Mr. Wilson taken the floor and apologized to his colleagues for disrupting the address.
Mr. Wilson briefly argued his own case Tuesday and refused to offer the apology demanded by House Democrats, saying that Mr. Obama had already accepted his apology and that that should have ended the matter.
“The challenges our nation faces are far bigger than any one member of this House,” said Mr. Wilson, who was comforted and encouraged by his Republican colleagues as he faced the vote against him. “It is time that we move forward and get to work for the American people.”
The three ranking members of the House Republican leadership all took the floor to criticize Democrats for conducting what Representative John A. Boehner of Ohio, the party leader, described as a witch hunt against Mr. Wilson. They accused Democrats of politicizing the incident to shift attention from their internal party struggles over health care legislation.
“Let’s get on with the business of the people,” said Representative Eric Cantor of Virginia, the No. 2 Republican.
While some lawmakers have suggested that Mr. Wilson’s outburst had a racial component, top Democrats played down that view and said they were acting strictly to uphold proper order in the House.
“I did not take a racial connotation from Mr. Wilson’s remarks,” said Representative Steny H. Hoyer of Maryland, the majority leader, who introduced the resolution. “I do believe that there are expressions throughout the country being made that are unusually harsh. I think the attacks being made on Mr. Obama are unusually vitriolic.”
The House historian’s office said no lawmaker had ever previously been held to account for behavior toward the president during an appearance on Capitol Hill — though lawmakers have been cited for personal attacks on a president during routine House debate when the chief executive was not present. House guidelines on the rules of debate say it is impermissible to refer to the president as a liar.
The vote put Republicans in the position of opposing a resolution that condemned behavior virtually all of them had agreed was improper, as has Mr. Wilson himself. Even his wife, Roxanne, conceded on a video put on his campaign Web site that after the speech she asked him, “Who’s the nut that hollered out, “You lie or you liar?”
“I couldn’t believe that Joe would say that,” Ms. Wilson said, “but he is very passionate and he is fighting the good fight.”
She said her husband “does not deserve the treatment he is getting from Congress.”
The White House pointedly stayed out of the dispute.
“That’s House business,” said Bill Burton, a White House spokesman.
“Congressman Wilson called the White House to apologize. The president accepted his apology.”
The episode has become a political bonanza for both parties as Mr. Wilson and his Democratic challenger in the 2010 election, Rob Miller, have each raised over $1 million in the aftermath, and the two parties have benefited as well.
Mr. Boehner, the Republican leader, said policing such minor activity through a resolution could set a dangerous precedent.
“There has been behavior that has gone around here far more serious than this,” Mr. Boehner said. “My goodness, we could be doing this every day of the week.”
BillDemo
09-15-2009, 11:38 PM
Voting present were 5 Democrats....
....all of them named "Obama".:rolleyes:
Wyoming Dem
09-15-2009, 11:47 PM
"OH NO BAD JOE" give me a f**king break...what are they, kindergartners? (Oh..well I just answered my own question...) They wasted MY TAX DOLLARS voting on whether or not "Bad Joe" should get an official scolding?
And no one but me sees how bizarro and posturing this is? Does Joe also have to wear a post-it stuck to his forehead for a week that says "I was a naughty boy"? The only thing I am pissed off about is that Joe did not use a BETTER word than "liar..."
VotingHillary
09-15-2009, 11:51 PM
The only thing I am pissed off about is that Joe did not use a BETTER word than "liar..."
Fibber? :D
mavfin
09-15-2009, 11:55 PM
Fibber? :D
Knowing Wydem, I bet that's not it. :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::laughing::surprise:
VotingHillary
09-16-2009, 12:05 AM
Knowing Wydem, I bet that's not it. :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::laughing::surprise:
Was I close? :laughing:
hillary4change
09-16-2009, 12:08 AM
Maybe the republicans should go back and retro a rebuke for the dem that actually said "Your a liar", not to be confused with Joe Wilson's "You lie" comment, to bush during his state of the union address??? HMMM!
Or would the dems then claim that that would be a waste of tax dollars????
I love how these politicians are outraged when the other party does something they themselves did to the LAST PRESIDENT!!!!!!
So 5th grade!!!! And they are in control of our Congress!!!:eek::o:confused:
Wyoming Dem
09-16-2009, 12:15 AM
Was I close? :laughing:
Lieing Dickhead...you forced it out of me...
JBPoliticsJunkie
09-16-2009, 12:18 AM
While Wilson deserved to be admonished and reprimanded, I fail to see how this resolution is effective.
Maybe Wilson will truly be remorseful once his opponent, Miller, outraises him with funds and defeats him in next year's election. Let's hope.
mavfin
09-16-2009, 12:20 AM
While Wilson deserved to be admonished and reprimanded, I fail to see how this resolution is effective.
Maybe Wilson will truly be remorseful once his opponent, Miller, outraises him with funds and defeats him in next year's election. Let's hope.
Wouldn't hurt my feelings. While he was accurate, as at the time he said it, the drafts didn't have any provision for checking whether they were legally here or not, his presentation wasn't good.
And anyone who thinks flying the Confederate flag is a good thing really isn't my pick for anything.
VotingHillary
09-16-2009, 12:56 AM
Lieing Dickhead...you forced it out of me...
Ok, so I wasn't close....:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
NativeSun
09-16-2009, 02:05 AM
Well, good for Congress for showing that they are at least able to pass something. :laughing:
But did they read the measure first???
hobbitt
09-16-2009, 06:40 AM
"OH NO BAD JOE" give me a f**king break...what are they, kindergartners? (Oh..well I just answered my own question...) They wasted MY TAX DOLLARS voting on whether or not "Bad Joe" should get an official scolding?
And what did these paragons of virtue do with Mark Foley? and his replacement Tim Mahoney? Paul Kanjorski? William Jefferson? Alcee Hastings? oh - Gary Condit?
Obviously, you can't censure a guy (of either party) who fools around, accepts bribes, cheats on his income tax, and/or breaks campaign funding laws, hires his nogoodnik brother-in-law for a no-show job, etc. but you may safely rise up in righteous indignation when some moron does something of which you happen to be totally innocent: yelling at the Pres.
foxyladi
09-16-2009, 12:09 PM
....all of them named "Obama".:rolleyes:
:rotfl::rotfl:
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