(9/17/2009) "Rush Limbaugh calls for segregated buses" (Raw Story)

[NoFear]

In a remark extraordinary even by the standards of conservative talk show host Rush Limbaugh, the right-wing radio heavyweight declared on his program Wednesday that the United States needed to return to racially segregated buses.

Referring to an incident in which a white student was beaten by black students on a bus, Limbaugh said: “I think the guy’s wrong. I think not only it was racism, it was justifiable racism. I mean, that’s the lesson we’re being taught here today. Kid shouldn’t have been on the bus anyway. We need segregated buses — it was invading space and stuff. This is Obama’s America.”

A full transcript of Limbaugh’s comments on his radio show is available at MediaMatters.org.

Limbaugh’s comments came after a called complained to say that local law enforcement said the attack probably wasn’t racially motivated. The incident had been hyped by the conservative Drudge Report, which posted a video of the fracas.

“Police initially said the beating of the white student by two black students appeared to be racially motivated,” the Associated Press wrote. “But police on Tuesday backed away from that.”

That didn’t stop Limbaugh from making his comments Wednesday.

“In Obama’s America, the white kids now get beat up with the black kids cheering, ‘Yay, right on, right on, right on, right on,” Limbaugh also said. “I wonder if Obama’s going to come to come to the defense of the assailants the way he did his friend Skip Gates up there at Harvard.”

“White Americans are racists who have created what they call free markets that really just enslave the rest of America and her trading partners,” Limbaugh also mocked. “I mean, it was white Americans that ran off Van Jones. No, look, let’s just follow Eric Holder’s advice and not be cowards about all this. Let’s have an open conversation, an honest conversation about all of our typical white grandmothers. You had one, I had one. Obama had one. They’re racists just like our students are. ACORN — hey, nothing but racism fueling the pursuit of ACORN.”

Limbaugh also suggested that racism itself was acceptable.

“If homosexuality being inborn is what makes it acceptable, why does racism being inborn not make racism acceptable?” the talk show host asked. “I’m sorry — I mean, this is the way my mind works. But apparently now we don’t choose racism, we just are racists. We are born that way. We don’t choose it. So shouldn’t it be acceptable, excuse — this is according to the way the left thinks about things.”

Source (http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/09/17/limbaugh-we-need-segregated-buses/)

[mack20]

Holy f*ck Rush Limbaugh.

[Ikasu]

So there were no school fights on the bus before Obama became president?

[mack20]

So there were no school fights on the bus before Obama became president?

Apparently none where a white student was beaten up by black students, at least in the world according to Limbaugh.

[NativeSun]

Apparently none where a white student was beaten up by black students, at least in the world according to Limbaugh.

No, I saw the initial media report by local police. And they believed that racism was involved. To now say that it was due to a seating issue is backing away from from an uncoming confrontation they don't want to engage in. They're cowards. Let's see...it wasn't racism when the black kids beat up the white kid. It was because the black kid didn't want the white kid to sit next to him (and that's not racist either?).

[Ikasu]

No, I saw the initial media report by local police. And they believed that racism was involved. To now say that it was due to a seating issue is backing away from from an uncoming confrontation they don't want to engage in. They're cowards. Let's see...it wasn't racism when the black kids beat up the white kid. It was because the black kid didn't want the white kid to sit next to him (and that's not racist either?).

Looks like a bullying issue to me which has been around before "Obama's America". Skinny kid trying to get a seat on a packed bus. That's going to work out well.

[NativeSun]

Looks like a bullying issue to me which has been around before "Obama's America". Skinny kid trying to get a seat on a packed bus. That's going to work out well.

So when kids beat up the gay kid, they're just being bullies?

[Ikasu]

So when kids beat up the gay kid, they're just being bullies?

If they know he's gay, that's a different situation.

[NativeSun]

If they know he's gay, that's a different situation.

Did the black kids not know the kid was white? And why wasn't the black kid picking a fight with another black kid?

[mack20]

No, I saw the initial media report by local police. And they believed that racism was involved. To now say that it was due to a seating issue is backing away from from an uncoming confrontation they don't want to engage in. They're cowards. Let's see...it wasn't racism when the black kids beat up the white kid. It was because the black kid didn't want the white kid to sit next to him (and that's not racist either?).

They made the initial statement Monday, retracted it Tuesday, and Limbaugh advocated for segregating buses on Wednesday.

Where was Rush Limbaugh's outrage when Sarah Kreager (white woman) was beaten up by nine black teenagers on a bus in Dec. 2007? Where were his calls to segregate buses then? Or did that not count because it wasn't "Obama's America" yet?

[NativeSun]

They made the initial statement Monday, retracted it Tuesday, and Limbaugh advocated for segregating buses on Wednesday.

Where was Rush Limbaugh's outrage when Sarah Kreager (white woman) was beaten up by nine black teenagers on a bus in Dec. 2007? Where were his calls to segregate buses then? Or did that not count because it wasn't "Obama's America" yet?

Maybe you should ask him. Did he know about it? And back then,even though it was only 2 years ago, the terms racist and racism weren't been thrown around at every single moment. Now that's change we can believe in!

[Ikasu]

Did the black kids not know the kid was white? And why wasn't the black kid picking a fight with another black kid?

Black kids pick on other black kids. Black kids pick on white kids. White kids pick on nerdy black kids. It's school bullying that must be investigated on a case-by-case basis. In this case, it looks like a skinny kid trying get a seat on a packed bus. I'm not excusing anything, these kids should be punished severely by the school and kicked off the bus for the remainder of the year. But who's playing the race card now? It looks like you are.

[NativeSun]

Black kids pick on other black kids. Black kids pick on white kids. White kids pick on nerdy black kids. It's school bullying that must be investigated on a case-by-case basis. In this case, it looks like a skinny kid trying get a seat on a packed bus. I'm not excusing anything, these kids should be punished severely by the school and kicked off the bus for the remainder of the year. But who's playing the race card now? It looks like you are.

Actually, you are by dismising it so readily. Racism is a two-way street.

[Classical Liberal]

Yeah, just like it wasn't racism when those black kids beat up that white kid then got to go on BET.

[Ikasu]

Actually, you are by dismising it so readily. Racism is a two-way street.

Dismissing what? There is racism on both sides, I just don't see how it was a factor in this case unless you can convince me with more evidence.

[mack20]

Maybe you should ask him. Did he know about it? And back then,even though it was only 2 years ago, the terms racist and racism weren't been thrown around at every single moment. Now that's change we can believe in!

hah, and I get told that liberals are the ones who do mental gymnastics to justify things.

Michelle Malkin discussed the Kreager beating, but I haven't found a Limbaugh comment on it. Convenient though that black kids beating up a white person should only result in segregated buses now that Obama is president. Funny thing is, the Kreager beating was actually investigated as a hate crime and Limbaugh apparently had no comment, this incident was labeled as a possible hate crime for one day and then retracted and Limbaugh thinks that we should re-segregate buses.

[Kbentleyis]

Here is what was really said.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_091509/content/01125106.guest.html

BEGIN TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: Hey, look, folks, the white kid on that bus in Belleville, Illinois, he deserved to be beat up. You don't know about this story? Oh, there's video of this. The school bus filled with mostly black students beat up a white student a couple of times with all the black students cheering. Of course the white student on the bus deserved the beating. He was born a racist. That's what Newsweek magazine told us in its most recent cover. It's Obama's America, is it not? Obama's America, white kids getting beat up on school buses now. You put your kids on a school bus, you expect safety but in Obama's America the white kids now get beat up with the black kids cheering, "Yay, right on, right on, right on, right on," and, of course, everybody says the white kid deserved it, he was born a racist, he's white. Newsweek magazine told us this. We know that white students are destroying civility on buses, white students destroying civility in classrooms all over America, white congressmen destroying civility in the House of Representatives.

We can redistribute students while we redistribute their parents' wealth. We can redistribute everything. Just return the white students to their rightful place, their own bus with bars on the windows and armed guards. They're racists. They get what they deserve. Newsweek magazine told us this, post-racial America. I wonder if Obama is going to come to the defense the assailants the way he did his friend Skip Gates up there at Harvard. I mean the assailants are presumed innocent due to the white racism we all know runs rampant in America. The Drive-By Media is ginning up all this criticism of Obama. Again today it's all based in racism, the criticism of Obama's health care plan or whatever, it's all based in racism and so, if he's going to apologize for America, Obama needs to apologize for the right reasons. White Americans are racists who have created what they call free markets that really just enslave the rest of America and her trading partners. It was white Americans that ran off Van Jones.

Let's just follow Eric Holder's advice and not be cowards about all this. Let's have an open conversation, an honest conversation about all of our typical white grandmothers. You had one, I had one. Obama had one. They're racists just like our students are. ACORN, hey, nothing but racism fueling the pursuit of ACORN. Greetings, folks. How are you? (interruption) What do you mean you can't look at everything through a racial prism? Obama does. And his media is looking at everything through a racial prism. The left looks at everything through a racial prism. Hey, they hit us; we hit back twice as hard. Greetings, folks, Rush Limbaugh behind the Golden EIB Microphone and the telephone number if you want to be on the program, 800-282-2882.

Look, this thing on the bus cannot possibly be a hate crime. The cops are probably lying about what happened even though we have the video. The video was probably doctored and edited. We all know that cops are liars, racist pigs and that the white kid deserved it. I mean that's modern 2009 going into 2010 America.


BREAK TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: Now, Kanye West. Kanye West, well-known rapper. In fact, audio sound bites, I'm going to switch up on the broadcast engineer. Let's do 17, 18 and 19, let's get those ready because I got an idea. I think I've unearthed a nest of racists in journalism, another nest of racists in the music business. What is all this criticism of Kanye West? Okay, so he goes out there and he's drunk, he's drinking cognac or whatever and he steals the show from the legitimate award winner, but I mean what the hell, the award winner was white, he's black, there's racism going on here. They're criticizing Kanye West. They are demeaning Kanye West. Ladies and gentlemen, Kanye West is African-American, and as we are learning from the State-Controlled Media, any criticism of Obama is racist and therefore it follows, any disapproval of whatever Kanye West did has to be racism.

What did he do? It's MTV, for crying out loud. This is mild compared to what happens on MTV. Look, I know he was upset that Beyonce didn't get the award, I understand all that, but so what. He drank? That's nothing. That's like eating jelly beans compared to what else is going on backstage at the MTV Music Awards. Okay, and plus he got drunk on cognac. That's an elite drink. It doesn't take a whole lot of cognac, so he gets liquored up on cognac, he walks out, he's standing up for his sister, he's standing up for racial unity. Beyonce should have gotten it. Instead, the 19-year-old white country chick got it. And now we're all ripping into Kanye West. Oh, it has to be racism, folks. There's no other reason why people would be criticizing Kanye West. He's entitled to be egotistical and stupid, just like Obama is entitled to be egotistical and stupid but any criticism of Obama is racist. Look, forget Kanye West for a second. I'm going to have to prove my point here. Let's go to the audio sound bites. We have a montage. Last night, CNN, too many people to list, State-Controlled Media action line, the protest against Obama is racist.

CAMPBELL BROWN: (music) ...vicious, racist imagery attacking our first African-American president.

LAWRENCE O'DONNELL: (newsroom noise) Gentleman Joe Wilson has done much to make the racist history of South Carolina jump back into our present consciousness.

CANDY CROWLEY: (b-roll) Critics think this is about resistance to a black man as president.

JAMES CARVILLE: People are upset with President Obama because of the color of his skin. Who cannot believe that?

CHRIS MATTHEWS: Could there be a refusal to accept the legitimacy of Barack Obama as president because of his race?

WOLF BLITZER: A small but disturbing minority within the tea party movement is also blatantly anti-black.

JOHN RIDLEY: When you talk about racial image, this is not just standard debate.

ELAINE QUIJANO: (b-roll) A small but passionate minority is also voicing what some see as racist rhetoric.

JOHN AVLON: Hitler. Communism. Racism. All this ugliness is bubbling up.

ANDERSON COOPER: There is an undercurrent of racism in some of the criticism of the president.

JUAN WILLIAMS: An attack on somebody because you really don't like the fact that they are president or because of their race.

ROSS DOUTHAT: Clearly Barack Obama's race plays some role in the kind of anxieties that are roiling the political right.

CLARENCE PAGE: (outdoor noise) People are not just mad at Obama. They are mad at Jesse Jackson. They are mad at Reverend Wright. They are mad at Al Sharpton. They are mad at people who have nothing to do with Obama except they all happen to be black.


RUSH: That's Clarence Page there at the end. So you could see my progressive logical thinking here is that if all of this criticism of Obama -- look at this, now. There's absolutely nothing wrong with this health care bill, there's nothing wrong with cap and trade, there's nothing wrong with card check, there's nothing wrong with owning the automobile -- nothing wrong with any of it, it's all racism, every bit of opposition is racism. Therefore it only follows that the white kid getting beat up on the bus deserved to get beat up 'cause he's born racist, according to Newsweek magazine. It's understandable the other black students on the bus would cheer. And now Kanye West being ripped to shreds for playing to type. I mean this is the MTV Music Awards. This is where this kind of aberrant behavior is supposed to happen. The only reason anybody can be criticizing Kanye West has to be, based on what we're learning from the State-Controlled Media, because he's racist. Surely some of these critics of Kanye West can look themselves in the mirror and ask themselves, "Will you ever stop criticizing a guy just because of his skin color?" Mike Lupica, you got a column here. Eugene Robinson, you got a column here.

Let's go to Kanye West. I actually think what got all this going was that Terry Moran of ABC News put on a Tweet that Obama had called Kanye West a jackass. And then they took that down because Obama did say it but not in a formal interview, he said it outside a formal interview setting. He called Kanye West a jackass. So I think, you know, they're looking for a new judge to replace Paula Abdul on American Idol. Obama! He's doing television everywhere else. Nobody wants Ellen DeGeneres on there to be a judge, Paula's gone so put on Obama, going to be on TV every Monday or Tuesday and Wednesday night in the important winter months when people are staying at home. So let Obama, if he's willing to call Kanye West a jackass, imagine what he could say about some of the other talent on American Idol. Yes, the criticism of Serena Williams was most definitely racist. Good point, Snerdley. My criticism of you is racist. Serena Williams, what did she do, she got screwed. The line judge was right but the line judge is a racist because the line judge isn't black. This is all stuff we have to admit, folks, we all know this. Let me go to the tape last night of Jay Leno's debut. Kanye West comes out. Leno says, "Tell us about your day. Have you had a tough day today, Kanye?"

WEST: I immediately knew in the situation that it was wrong. It wasn't a spectacle -- you know, actually someone's emotions, you know, that I stepped on, it was very -- it was just -- it was rude, period, and, you know, I'd like to be able to apologize to her in person. So many, you know, celebrities they never take the time off and I've never taken the time off to really, you know, I just music after music and tour and tour, and I just ashamed that my hurt caused, you know, someone else's hurt. My dream of what award shows are supposed to be caused -- you know -- and I don't try to justify it because I was just in the wrong, that's period, but I need to after this take some time off and just analyze how I'm going to, you know, make it through the -- the rest of this life, how I'm going to improve.

RUSH: You know, I've rarely heard such articulate, clean, brilliant logic in my life on this program. If more people in this country were able to express themselves the way Kanye West did on the Leno show last night we would be far better off. We wouldn't have any misunderstandings at all. I mean, it's rare, folks, to have this kind of clarity, clean articulation on prime-time television on the network. (interruption) Yeah, great looking guy, great looking guy, especially with the cognac snifter in his hand. I mean the guy's got elegant class, no question about that. Let's go back September 2, 2005, concert for hurricane relief all over GE. Here's a portion of Kanye West's appeal for money.

WEST: We already realize a lot of the people that could help are at war right now fighting another way and they -- they've -- they've given them permission to go down and shoot us. George Bush doesn't care about black people.

RUSH: And, see, therefore the criticism of Kanye West has to be rooted in racism. Again some brilliant formulation there. You know words are beautiful things. You find the beautifully strung together words normally in literature. But Kanye West, folks, I mean, we are in the midst of a charismatic brilliance here that is as difficult to absorb in one setting. Here, September 24th on Nightline, Terry Moran interviewed the noted rapper Kanye West. "What did it do to your life when you said that, 'George Bush doesn't care about black people'?"

WEST: I think it changed my life for the better. I think people understood me a little bit more.

MORAN: Do you think it was fair? Reflecting now, do you still believe George Bush doesn't care about black people?

WEST: I mean I have a hard time believing that George Bush cares about anyone. (laughing) So, side-bar black people also, you know. (laughing)

RUSH: There you have it, Kanye West described as a jackass by President Obama. I think Obama is probably just jealous of Kanye West's communication skills.

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[NativeSun]

hah, and I get told that liberals are the ones who do mental gymnastics to justify things.

Michelle Malkin discussed the Kreager beating, but I haven't found a Limbaugh comment on it. Convenient though that black kids beating up a white person should only result in segregated buses now that Obama is president. Funny thing is, the Kreager beating was actually investigated as a hate crime and Limbaugh apparently had no comment, this incident was labeled as a possible hate crime for one day and then retracted and Limbaugh thinks that we should re-segregate buses.

I'm not defending Rush Limbaugh's call to segregate school buses. My main problem is the police department backing off from their initial comments. It's political cowardice. I saw the school bus video. The black kid only started "bullying" someone when the white kid sat next to him.

[Classical Liberal]

Not for segregated buses, we all know that if this was a small black kid beatu p by white kids, there would be hell to pay. Just a fact.

[jlynne]

Not for segregated buses, we all know that if this was a small black kid beatu p by white kids, there would be hell to pay. Just a fact.

A white man beats up a black woman at a Cracker Barrell and they call in the FBI to investigate to see if there were any civil rights violations. A black kid beats up a white kid while other black kids cheer him on and it is a local issue for the local police department to determine what caused the incident. On the thread about the black woman, there is much sympathy expressed for her and for her child. On this thread, no one has even inquired about the health of the white kid who was beaten up. Anyone know how the kid is doing?

[NativeSun]

A white man beats up a black woman at a Cracker Barrell and they call in the FBI to investigate to see if there were any civil rights violations. A black kid beats up a white kid while other black kids cheer him on and it is a local issue for the local police department to determine what caused the incident. On the thread about the black woman, there is much sympathy expressed for her and for her child. On this thread, no one has even inquired about the health of the white kid who was beaten up. Anyone know how the kid is doing?

From what the police said, he has lots of cuts on his face (because he wears glasses) but was not taken to the hospital afterwards. That might have changed since then. He should at least go to see if he suffered a concussion. But he's not the victim here, it's the kid who feels the need to bully. There must be something going on at home that we're not aware of.

[tracker]

It is all very sad and a commentary on major confusion and ignorance as to what racism is and a commentary on how our society still "accepts" violence in many instances to settle differences rather than talking and healing. :-bd

We are falling way short in teaching our kids to respect each other and allow people to be themselves. Diversity is what makes life interesting and worthwhile.:thumbsup:

[foxyladi]

It is all very sad and a commentary on major confusion and ignorance as to what racism is and a commentary on how our society still "accepts" violence in many instances to settle differences rather than talking and healing. :-bd

We are falling way short in teaching our kids to respect each other and allow people to be themselves. Diversity is what makes life interesting and worthwhile.:thumbsup:

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[PA_Voter]

Maybe you should ask him. Did he know about it? And back then,even though it was only 2 years ago, the terms racist and racism weren't been thrown around at every single moment. Now that's change we can believe in!

Sooooooooooo True!