(9/12/09) Beck: McCain Would've Been Worse (Townhall)

[Valin]

Townhall (http://townhall.com/blog/g/debeee54-f3f9-4190-99fb-4064fb2f3913)
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During an interview with Katie Couric, Glenn Beck said he may have voted for Hillary Clinton had she won the Democratic nomination. What is more, he says he thinks "John McCain would have been worse for the country than Barack Obama"...

The full interview is set to run at CBSNews.com on Tuesday at 7 p.m., EST.

[CGP]

The mind boggles!

[Spang]

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[Spang]

Katie Couric, Glenn Beck, all in the family

The forthcoming book by the first guest on Katie Couric's new Webcast has a provocative title: Arguing With Idiots.

That's Glenn Beck, first up on @KATIECOURIC, a new Webcast hosted by the anchor of the CBS Evening News.

The recurring Webcast will feature "candid one-on-one interviews with top newsmakers from the worlds of politics, business, entertainment and more,'' CBS says. The show "will be a great opportunity to go beyond the big stories, to roll up our sleeves and really examine the issues and people who are shaping the news," Couric says.

The inaugural run, at 7 pm EDT on Tuesday, features the inflammatory FOX News commentator whose book, Arguing with Idiots: How to Stop Small Minds and Big Government arrives at a time of heightened viewership for a show that critics have targeted with an advertising boycott, only to see it grow, only to have Republican Sarah Palin urge her 890,000 followers on Facebook to watch it.

The book, too, will make its debut Tuesday.

The publisher is Simon & Schuster.

A division of CBS Corp.

So now you get it.

The sponsor is Dove. Beck is not one.

The Source (http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2009/09/katie_couric_glenn_beck_all_in.html)

[mavfin]

From what I've been able to find out, he's basically saying that this way, Obama gets blamed when the house of cards falls. He's saying that the house would still have fallen on McCain, but, the Republicans would have gotten the blame for it. Glenn Beck needs to stick to finding other people's words to report, not his own.

There's reasons I don't watch Glenn Beck. He does some things right, but in the end, it's all about the ratings.

[CGP]

There's reasons I don't watch Glenn Beck. He does some things right, but in the end, it's all about the ratings.

Honestly, I don't know why people enjoy tuning in to his show.

There are some interesting commentators on Fox, but Beck isn't one of them. I find his style/approach very irritating & boring.

Give me Coulter any day over Beck. Dick Morris is also much more interesting than Beck.

[The_Basseteer]

President McCain would have attenuated the formation and rise of the TEA parties and the rebirth of the conservative movement, Vice-President Palin would be locked into a position of having to agree with the McCain administration instead of making liberal heads explode as she does now.



From: Human Events

Thank You, President Obama (http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=33617)
by Brian Darling 09/21/2009

I love President Barack Obama. No kidding. I love the guy. Barack Obama is the best community organizer of conservatives since Ronald Reagan.

Not even conservative icon Sarah Palin, had she been elected Vice President, could have put together hundreds of town hall meetings with conservatives turning out and decrying the socialist aspects of the liberal health care bills.

It’s even less likely a President John McCain could have gathered Americans in different cities to conduct anti-big government Tea Party rallies. Who else but President Obama could motivate the huge rally in Washington, D.C. on September 12, where hundreds of thousands declared their intention to take back the nation? Glenn Beck and FreedomWorks couldn’t have done it without the expertise and hard work of the Obama administration.

Conservatives need to take a moment to thank the one guy who could organize a community of conservatives in a mere nine months of work. Thank you, President Obama.

(Read More) (http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=33617)

[greenleaf]

McCain seems to illicit a negative reaction among many on the conservative side of the aisle. IMO, it was the lukewarm support from his own party that caused him to lose the election.
I'm not sure why they see McCain as progressive, but perhaps if they're so sure progressive ideas will fail they'd rather see a Dem take the responsibility.

[NativeSun]

In a way it is true, Obama has done more to unite the conservatives than any conservative could have done. Thanks Obama!

[Valin]

McCain seems to illicit a negative reaction among many on the conservative side of the aisle. IMO, it was the lukewarm support from his own party that caused him to lose the election.
I'm not sure why they see McCain as progressive, but perhaps if they're so sure progressive ideas will fail they'd rather see a Dem take the responsibility.


Two reason come immediately to mind

1 Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002...aka McCain Feingold

2 Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2007...aka McCain Kennedy

I could also mention his constant slamming of the rightwing of the Republican party, his joining the "Gang of 14", the fawning of the MSM over him.

It wasn't so much our "lukewarm support for him that caused him to lose...see the reaction and turnout for Sarah Palin.
Many reasons why President Obama won...in one particular order
one mans opinion, freely given and worth almost that much
President Bush was very unpopular. So a vote against McCain was seen as a vote against Bush, not really fair but who said politics is fair, the Democrats were tired of the Clintons (once again who said politics was fair) and and he ran a great campaign, the other candidates were...how shall I put his...less than stellar. I mean, Dennis Kusinich? The term Kook was invented just for him, the best thing you can say about him is he's got a hottie for a wife. Bill Richardson? The term White bread comes to mind, and a bunch of other guys including Slow Joe Biden. Ah Slow Joe...the gift that keeps on giving!
It all comes down to one word..Timing.

We don't see McCain as a progressive, we see him as a RINO.

Not sure any Republican could've beaten Obama in 2008. I would've loved to see what Rudy Giuliani could've done. THAT would've been real fun to watch.

[Alces95]

The Source (http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2009/09/katie_couric_glenn_beck_all_in.html)

Just for fun....

Let me try an "ideology connection" Beck style!

Glenn has a book that is published by CBS -

Les Moonves is the leader of CBS -

Les Moonves is the great nephew of David Ben-Gurion.

David Ben-Gurion was a Marxist in Russia before become an Isreali leader and Prime Minister.

We need to ask Beck - Do you support these Marxist goals? I'm just asking the question.... We don't know what he really believes....

MSM Where are you?!?! Why aren't you covering these connections?!?!?!

Hey, thats fun! :thumbsup:

[greenleaf]

Two reason come immediately to mind

1 Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002...aka McCain Feingold

2 Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2007...aka McCain Kennedy

I could also mention his constant slamming of the rightwing of the Republican party, his joining the "Gang of 14", the fawning of the MSM over him.

It wasn't so much our "lukewarm support for him that caused him to lose...see the reaction and turnout for Sarah Palin.
Many reasons why President Obama won...in one particular order
one mans opinion, freely given and worth almost that much
President Bush was very unpopular. So a vote against McCain was seen as a vote against Bush, not really fair but who said politics is fair, the Democrats were tired of the Clintons (once again who said politics was fair) and and he ran a great campaign, the other candidates were...how shall I put his...less than stellar. I mean, Dennis Kusinich? The term Kook was invented just for him, the best thing you can say about him is he's got a hottie for a wife. Bill Richardson? The term White bread comes to mind, and a bunch of other guys including Slow Joe Biden. Ah Slow Joe...the gift that keeps on giving!
It all comes down to one word..Timing.

We don't see McCain as a progressive, we see him as a RINO.

Not sure any Republican could've beaten Obama in 2008. I would've loved to see what Rudy Giuliani could've done. THAT would've been real fun to watch.

Thanks for the input.
I've long noticed the snarls from my conservative friends when McCain's name is mentioned. Some held their noses in November in order to vote for him. I've been trying to understand the thinking.
Is disloyalty to the party and the philosophy a part of it then?

[cindyb]

I'm still a John McCain fan. I believe he is a man of integrity.

[greenleaf]

I'm still a John McCain fan. I believe he is a man of integrity.

I respect John McCain as well. He was easy for me to support when I became disgusted with the Democratic Party.

[foxyladi]

In a way it is true, Obama has done more to unite the conservatives than any conservative could have done. Thanks Obama!

genericstamp!genericstamp!genericstamp!

[Valin]

Thanks for the input.
I've long noticed the snarls from my conservative friends when McCain's name is mentioned. Some held their noses in November in order to vote for him.

PRESENT! :)
There is a bumper sticker I saw a while ago "I voted for Sarah and the other guy"
Something many others have noted in regard to Sarah Palin, she's called Sarah her first name. She connects with a large part of the conservative movement, we know she, or women just like her we could see her standing in line at Wal-Mart. Weather or not she'd be a good candidate for President? That's a subject for another time, and only time will tell.


I've been trying to understand the thinking.
Is disloyalty to the party and the philosophy a part of it then?

There is a difference between Conservatism as a political philosophy and the Republican Party, as a political party. While Conservatism and Republicanism have many things in common they are not the same.
Example: Sen. Olympia Snowe is a Republican, nothing conservative about her...(American Conservative Union lifetime ratting 47.88 on a scale of 1 to 100)
Sen. Jim DeMint has a lifetime ratting 98.4

Both Republicans

[Valin]

I respect John McCain as well. He was easy for me to support when I became disgusted with the Democratic Party.

Something I heard Bill Buckley say that I always keep in mind when picking someone to support
"I support the rightward most viable candidate."


This is something people on the fringes of politics don't seem to understand.
You can have the best ideas in the world, but if you can't get elected...they don't mean squat.

[greenleaf]

PRESENT! :)
There is a difference between Conservatism as a political philosophy and the Republican Party, as a political party. While Conservatism and Republicanism have many things in common they are not the same.
Example: Sen. Olympia Snowe is a Republican, nothing conservative about her...(American Conservative Union lifetime ratting 47.88 on a scale of 1 to 100)
Sen. Jim DeMint has a lifetime ratting 98.4

Both Republicans

Sure, I should have said party and/or philosophy.

[Valin]

Sure, I should have said party and/or philosophy.

Some put philosophy over party. Most of us find a balence.
You got two candidates, one agrees with you 65-70% of the time and stands a good chance of getting elected, the othe 90% but has about as much chance as a flatworm of getting elected. The vast majority of conservatives will pick the former.

[CGP]

YouTube - Beck - McCain Would've Been Worse Than Obama

[rob3gdd]

I respect John McCain as well. He was easy for me to support when I became disgusted with the Democratic Party.

=D>:thumbsup:

[Laura Cereta]

I love President Barack Obama. No kidding. I love the guy. Barack Obama is the best community organizer of conservatives since Ronald Reagan.

Not even conservative icon Sarah Palin, had she been elected Vice President, could have put together hundreds of town hall meetings with conservatives turning out and decrying the socialist aspects of the liberal health care bills.

It’s even less likely a President John McCain could have gathered Americans in different cities to conduct anti-big government Tea Party rallies. Who else but President Obama could motivate the huge rally in Washington, D.C. on September 12, where hundreds of thousands declared their intention to take back the nation? Glenn Beck and FreedomWorks couldn’t have done it without the expertise and hard work of the Obama administration.

Conservatives need to take a moment to thank the one guy who could organize a community of conservatives in a mere nine months of work. Thank you, President Obama.


:rotfl: Community Organizer in Chief. **==