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Donna47
04-08-2008, 02:57 PM
This just on Fox News Linda Ramirez a super delegate from Illinois quit the Obama campaign after being accused of making a racist comment. Called children who were playing in a tree "monkeys". Maybe we should invite her to join our team.

NewHamster
04-08-2008, 03:03 PM
Who exactly accused her??

Charlie Brown
04-08-2008, 03:05 PM
What??

HillaryForPrez
04-08-2008, 03:08 PM
Others say Carpentersville trustee's comment won't doom careeer

By Larissa Chinwah and Lenore T. Adkins | Daily Herald Staff Published: 4/8/2008

EXCERPTS

Political allies and adversaries of Carpentersville Trustee Linda Ramirez-Sliwinski say the first-term trustee's comment comparing children climbing trees to monkeys does not signal the immediate end of her political career.
The incident, colleagues and experts say, should serve as a lesson in political correctness and sensitivity.
Ramirez-Sliwinski was cited for disorderly conduct Saturday when her black neighbors complained the trustee made a racist comment in saying, "This is not a tree for them to be climbing in like monkeys."

Ed Yohnka, a spokesman for the American Civil Liberties Union in Chicago, said likening blacks to monkeys "conjures up every bad image," because the word was used for centuries to demonize blacks and justify their mistreatment.
"I suppose that most of us can understand that there has been a horrible history of comparing African-Americans to animals -- and I suppose to monkeys in particular -- and it's horrific to think that someone would use that in public discourse today," Yohnka said.
Trustee Judy Sigwalt, a frequent political foe, said she would not ask Ramirez-Sliwinski to step down.
"I will leave that decision up to her," Sigwalt said. "But we are elected officials and need to set an example. We need to be diplomatic and watch what we say and do."
Other trustees say Ramirez-Sliwinski's words were not racially charged -- just a case of sticking her foot in her mouth.

Under different circumstances, calling people monkeys wouldn't have been a big deal, said Rob Currie, a psychology professor at Judson University in Elgin.
But because the targets of the remark are black, it could be interpreted as racist since blacks have historically been the victims of prejudice and discrimination, even if the comment wasn't meant in that way, he said.

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=168354&src=5

Artists4Hillary
04-08-2008, 03:08 PM
Every little thing is called racist. I don't believe she quit, she was fired. Just how that is racist, I don't see. Now her neighbors are calling her out and reporting....... this has gotten out of hand.

Donna47
04-08-2008, 03:11 PM
I believe it was a neighbor who accused her. I believe there was a 75 dollar fine invoked. This is what I have been saying for months; we are dealing with super-sensitive, paranoid, and frequently militant aggressives.

Would you want to be fined for such an incident as this? If BO becomes president this may become the new reality.

HillaryForPrez
04-08-2008, 03:12 PM
Ramirez-Sliwinski was cited for disorderly conduct Saturday when her black neighbors complained the trustee made a racist comment in saying, "This is not a tree for them to be climbing in like monkeys."
Ramirez-Sliwinski acknowledges the simile was a mistake but says the neighbors have blown it out of proportion.
"It was not deliberate and it was not a racial slur," Ramirez-Sliwinski said Monday. "It was a comment I use on my own grandchildren and my own children. I was not aware that it was a racial term until after I had said it."

What she said was wrong, Trustee Ed Ritter said. "But who of us hasn't said something wrong and immediately wished we could take it back after we said it?"
Though people likely will demand Ramirez-Sliwinski's resignation at the April 15 village board meeting, Village President Bill Sarto said the request would be unwarranted.

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=168354&src=5

She was given a $75 fine

Bella
04-08-2008, 03:15 PM
I don't think she quit either. She even said she calls her own kids monkeys. I mean, come on, I've heard this from other people too. My step-sister calls her son a monkey.

People are becoming way too sensitive. Good job Obama.

Tea toaD
04-08-2008, 03:19 PM
I heard 2 guests on the show say they are really upset over this. Afraid to say anything anymore it becomes racists. BO even called her "being divisive". One guest said "he has lost all credibility for BO":eek:

Donna47
04-08-2008, 03:34 PM
Does anyone have e-mail contacts for Super-Delegates?

Charlie Brown
04-08-2008, 03:37 PM
OMG...What else have we been saying wrong all these years and had no idea???? Thank you BARACK! for starting a race war in this country, your a good ole UNITER arent ya!:mad:

mkreyns
04-08-2008, 03:41 PM
This should be put on O'Reilly as he has been doing shows on the racist comments and how everything is being pulled out of proportion. Who hasn't said that about both white kids too?

lanney
04-08-2008, 03:41 PM
Kids are like monkey, jumping around, cry like cats and cute like a teddy bear.
Monkeys our ancestors, Comeon.
Humans are like animals.
BHO ears are like .......

HillaryForPrez
04-08-2008, 03:47 PM
Posted: Tuesday, 08 April 2008 7:44AM
Copyright 2008 STNG Wire, The Chicago Sun-Times.

Suburban Trustee Ticketed For 'Racist' Monkey Comment

Excerpts:

CARPENTERSVILLE, Ill. (WBBMSTNG) - Barack Obama's campaign reportedly has persuaded a delegate to step down after calling her neighbor's African-American children "monkeys" in scolding them for climbing a tree.
Carpentersville village trustee, Linda Ramirez-Sliwinski was elected as an Obama delegate to the Democratic National Convention.
On Saturday, she told two neighbor children to stop playing in a tree next to her house.
Ramirez-Sliwinski admits she used the word "monkeys," but said she did not intend racism. She said she was only trying to protect them from falling out of the tree.
The Chicago Sun-Times reports that Barack Obama's campaign felt her remarks were "divisive and unacceptable" and persuaded her to step aside as a delegate.
Ramirez-Sliwinski was charged with disorderly conduct after making the allegedly racist remark.

http://www.wbbm780.com/Suburban-Trustee-Ticketed-For--Racist--Monkey-Comm/1964901

Jayling
04-08-2008, 03:49 PM
Ramirez isn't a Super Delegate (http://s3.amazonaws.com/apache.3cdn.net/c2ce7258d3edb3031f_1bm6bnhlx.pdf).

Lordy, what's become of this touchy country. Growing up, I was called a monkey for climbing trees so much. And when my nieces and nephews came along, I called the little monkeys -- monkeys, when they were scrambling up the branches.

People are going off the deep end, trying hard to find racial slurs at every utterance.

What a mess.

HillaryForPrez
04-08-2008, 03:52 PM
WHAT IS GOING ON HERE? SHE ADMITS SHE WAS WRONG?:confused:

IF I WERE ACCUSED OF THIS, I WOULD RIP UP THE TICKET AND TAKE IT ALL THE WAY TO THE SUPREME COURT! I THINK SHE IS DRINKING THE OBAMA KOOLAID AND TRYING TO SAVE OBAMA'S BUTT OR SOMETHING.:mad:

THIS SMELLS FISHY!:eek:

foreigner4hillary
04-08-2008, 03:59 PM
This gets crazier and crazier.

I don't see anything wrong with calling children monkeys. I call my nieces and nephews monkeys all the time.

Just more PC crap.

Sandy in PA
04-08-2008, 04:01 PM
Holy heck! I almost feel sorry for her (although she was stupid enough to be working on BOs campaign).

Why would she apologize? Did the campaign pay her to go away?

floorrunner
04-08-2008, 04:07 PM
How in the world is this racist. My parents called my brothers and I monkeys all the time.

lanney
04-08-2008, 04:09 PM
People are calling Hillary everything, anything why that is not considered racism. It is racism.

Sandy in PA
04-08-2008, 04:14 PM
I think this is a classic case of reverse racism brought on by BOs divisive campaign.

joeysky18
04-08-2008, 04:37 PM
I believe this is the first time Obama played a race card on the expense of his surrogate.

EH
04-08-2008, 04:38 PM
So it would have been PC if she had called the kids cats, rats,or squirrels?:confused:

Sheesh! Some people need to take the plugs out of their butts!

Thank you Obama for "uniting the nation".

I'm so glad that this superdelgate learned the hard way what kind of voters she's siding with.

Annie
04-08-2008, 04:41 PM
Who exactly accused her??


Seems it was her next door neighbours (black) whose kids were climbing all over a tree - she was afraid they would fall and hurt themselves and said something like "come down from there you monkeys.... " I guess 'monkey' is another word not to be said out loud. I am getting positively sick of all this quite frankly.

Just another example of the racial divide that is beginning to happen because of Barry Soetoro's (Barak ******* Obama) campaign for President as a Uniter.

More lies: http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/30777.html

Background etc:
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/01/31/obamas-african-hubris-2/
http://caosblog.com/7071
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=149_1199587542
http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/31226.html

JMS825
04-08-2008, 04:52 PM
What BS. This is what Obama was hoping for. He wanted a convo on race in reality he wanted America to become PC Police. People are scared to speak now cause they will be accused of racisim. Bill Clinton was bashed left and right for bringing in race only cause the media deemed his words to be about race. Hillary said this country is worth fighting for but I am starting to wonder if maybe America needs some tough love and told to just shut the hell up

KYWildcatFan
04-08-2008, 04:52 PM
This is getting out of control. I have called my kids and grand kids monkeys when they are climbing on the "monkey" bars, climbing trees, and climbing on the jungle gyms. I have called them piglets when they have gotten food on their shirts while eating, I have told them they are barking like a dog during bad coughing colds, I have compared them to so many animals for so many reasons.

I guess I owe the animal kingdom an apology. I surely did not mean to offend any of them.

Shoot while I am at it I guess I need to apologize to the plants as well. I am always telling my kids and grand kids that they are growing like weeds.

Looks like I have some work to do.

Ijane
04-08-2008, 04:54 PM
This takes the cake!!

I'd just like everyone on this board to know:

My husband and I are the proud parents of 4 monkeys!!! I love all of my monkeys and wish I could give birth to a few more monkeys!!

Disfranchised
04-08-2008, 04:55 PM
As much as I hate BO, lets look at the article closely. "Ramirez-Sliwinski was cited for disorderly conduct!" I don't think any reasonable police officer will give you a ticket and arrest you for calling someone's child a monkey! There has to be much more in to that story!

Arkansas Hillarized
04-08-2008, 05:03 PM
ummm... does this mean we can't call people out for acting like a$$es? Seems like this is exactly what's happening and now they're acting like " " . What about a horse butt? Am I being mulish? Watch out.. oh my gosh.. the PC police are coming to take me away.. they're coming to take me away.. good bye Cruel racist world!

*all the above were said with a dose of sarcasm and not to be taken seriously*

seriously...? *scoffs*

JMS825
04-08-2008, 05:05 PM
As much as I hate BO, lets look at the article closely. "Ramirez-Sliwinski was cited for disorderly conduct!" I don't think any reasonable police officer will give you a ticket and arrest you for calling someone's child a monkey! There has to be much more in to that story!

not really all you need is a ego cop with an agenda. In IL they ticketed 8 people playing soccer in a public park cause they were destroying a "grass museum" There are cops out there who have their own agenda

SunnyInCal
04-08-2008, 05:05 PM
OMG...What else have we been saying wrong all these years and had no idea???? Thank you BARACK! for starting a race war in this country, your a good ole UNITER arent ya!:mad:

THis is the MOST ridiculous thing I have ever heard of in my life. I hear people calling children monkeys ALL the time. Monkeys are not black or white, they are brown.

The other day on O'Reilly he was saying how white people have stopped talking about race because whenever they do they are called racist. The black pundit on asked Bill to give him proof so Bill mentioned Ferraro. The black pundit said that Ferraro hadn't provided proof that anyone actually called her racist. Unbelievable. This is what we are up against. Obama people who only see what they want to see and refuse to accept any other reality. Just another reason I am NEVER voting for Obama. How ridiculous. I wonder if she'll turn around and endorse Hillary now lol

Annie
04-08-2008, 05:07 PM
I think this is a classic case of reverse racism brought on by BOs divisive campaign.

This is only one small example of what will happen in America if he becomes President.

This is really scary. George Orwell will be here 2009.

JMS825
04-08-2008, 05:08 PM
THis is the MOST ridiculous thing I have ever heard of in my life. I hear people calling children monkeys ALL the time. Monkeys are not black or white, they are brown.

The other day on O'Reilly he was saying how white people have stopped talking about race because whenever they do they are called racist. The black pundit on asked Bill to give him proof so Bill mentioned Ferraro. The black pundit said that Ferraro hadn't provided proof that anyone actually called her racist. Unbelievable. This is what we are up against. Obama people who only see what they want to see and refuse to accept any other reality. Just another reason I am NEVER voting for Obama. How ridiculous. I wonder if she'll turn around and endorse Hillary now lol

I dont want her endorsement cause it will bring more problems cause she is deemed racisit so naturally Obama will link racisim to Hillary's camp

Ijane
04-08-2008, 05:13 PM
...And how exactly do the neighbors explain to their little children why they shouldn't be called monkeys when kids of all other colors are called monkeys?

I think the parents trying to explain this to their kids is the real crime! I think it's emotional abuse.

Ijane
04-08-2008, 05:15 PM
If this doesn't cause Obama's white supporters to do a double take at their candidate, nothing will!

Tea toaD
04-08-2008, 05:21 PM
This might backfire on Obama with some of her friends and family who may be supporting him. You never know what will become of this.

JMS825
04-08-2008, 05:26 PM
I think this will be just blown over and forgotten. Nothing stick to Obama no matter how dirty it is

Tea toaD
04-08-2008, 05:34 PM
As much as I hate BO, lets look at the article closely. "Ramirez-Sliwinski was cited for disorderly conduct!" I don't think any reasonable police officer will give you a ticket and arrest you for calling someone's child a monkey! There has to be much more in to that story!


They have compared this to a parking ticket. She wasn't finger printed or arrested:)

Charlie Brown
04-08-2008, 05:38 PM
Typical white guilt card...Thats what this is.....I think your campaign is becoming a bit to redundant Barack...Once you opened the race flood gate, its not so easy to close it .... is it....especialy when your the racist....Not the Clintons...Not in a million years...

Bella
04-08-2008, 05:44 PM
As much as I hate BO, lets look at the article closely. "Ramirez-Sliwinski was cited for disorderly conduct!" I don't think any reasonable police officer will give you a ticket and arrest you for calling someone's child a monkey! There has to be much more in to that story!

In Illinois it's a Class C Misdemeanor - disorderly conduct- to make a racial slur. I looked it up. I don't think this was a racial slur at all, but the officer obviously used his own discretion and believed she was deserving of a fine. How sad. Maybe Ramirez learned a lesson that Obama supporters will eat their own.

Suzan
04-08-2008, 05:47 PM
I heard 2 guests on the show say they are really upset over this. Afraid to say anything anymore it becomes racists. BO even called her "being divisive". One guest said "he has lost all credibility for BO":eek:
Guests on what show?

Ramirez was charged with disorderly conduct and fined $75 for what???? Is that all she did was refer to the kids as monkeys? That's insane. I don't understand. How can you be charged with anything for that? There must be something more here.

Suzan
04-08-2008, 05:49 PM
In Illinois it's a Class C Misdemeanor - disorderly conduct- to make a racial slur. I looked it up. I don't think this was a racial slur at all, but the officer obviously used his own discretion and believed she was deserving of a fine. How sad. Maybe Ramirez learned a lesson that Obama supporters will eat their own.
Just saw this post. I still can't believe it. I hope this hits the news because it's just crazy enough to rile people up and make them think ... for once.

Bacio83
04-08-2008, 05:59 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/ramirez_sliwinski_policereport.pdf

Foxnews was nice enough to post the actual police report verbatim in this pdf file (copy) Yes all she did was call them monkeys for climbing a tree. I call little kids monsters including my cats. My niece who is biracial I call a monster and if she was climbing a tree I'd laugh and call her a little monkey. People are weird. And again Chicago suburbs nothing like NE suburbs or even cities. They're some of the most racist AA I've ever encountered.

Tea toaD
04-08-2008, 06:02 PM
Guests on what show?

Ramirez was charged with disorderly conduct and fined $75 for what???? Is that all she did was refer to the kids as monkeys? That's insane. I don't understand. How can you be charged with anything for that? There must be something more here.


Suzan, the guests were on foxnews. I don't know who they were exactly (sorry). When the story was airing I was vacuuming so didn't hear it all. The jest of it was that both were upset and the one even said he no longer has any credibilty for Obama. If there is more to the story then posted above, I'm not aware of it. It looks like she just got caught using monkeys as a racial slur.

movingtous
04-08-2008, 06:15 PM
This is insane. I have three boys, and I sometimes refer to them, Lovingly, as monkeys. People need to chill.

JMS825
04-08-2008, 07:02 PM
They just spoke of this on Fox and said it is the PC Police going out of control

HillaryForPrez
04-08-2008, 07:16 PM
She has other videos that are against Obama. Here she is just talking about the world. But, This lady cracks me up!

YouTube - Just Talking

http://www.youtube.com/user/bjacksheila

Ijane
04-08-2008, 07:24 PM
This might backfire on Obama with some of her friends and family who may be supporting him. You never know what will become of this.

It better back fire on Obama AND Richardson! Richardson's man just called the innocent remarks of a Hispanic local politician divisive and unacceptable. This woman most likely will have to find a new career and I hope Richardson catches hell for his endorsement!

Ed Yohnka, a spokesman for the American Civil Liberties Union in Chicago, said likening blacks to monkeys "conjures up every bad image," because the word was used for centuries to demonize blacks and justify their mistreatment.

She didn't liken blacks to monkeys. She likened children playing in a tree to monkeys. It was an appropriate comparison.

Does this mean every daycare center and kindergarten has to stop singing the "ten little monkeys jumping on the bed" song?

Annie
04-08-2008, 08:02 PM
That woman with the monkey is a simpleton.

joeysky18
04-08-2008, 08:09 PM
This might backfire on Obama with some of her friends and family who may be supporting him. You never know what will become of this.

I think it already did. I read through the comment at huffington, and the majority of people are upset that it had been taken out of proportion.

EH
04-08-2008, 08:14 PM
Next thing you know it will be against the law to sell "Curious George" books in the state of Illinois.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

HillaryForPrez
04-08-2008, 08:17 PM
The monkey lady is a simpleton, but listen to her excellent commentary on Reverend Jeremiah Wright and Obama...I could NOT have done a better job myself...

YouTube - Reverend Wright Anti-American

Johnf
04-08-2008, 09:03 PM
The comments were not the problem, but everything connected to Obama's campaign is. If Obama were to win, think of how America would be. There will be lawsuits, fines, firings, you won't be able to say anything, less it get reported as being racist - everything will have to be politically correct. We won't be able to say anything without people reviewing it several times to ensure there is nothing offencive, racist, nothing that can be misconstued. People will be living in fear. Employers will be afraid to comment on anything, you won't be able to critize a black worker, or you'll be called racist. Soon people will need witnesses around them when talking to a black person. This whole thing is crazy, it's gotten out of hand. I want a normal life and won't have that with Obama. He's creating division. He's creating animosity and fear. His whole campaign has gotten out of control. Please Obama step down. We dont' need fear in America. We don't need everything to be about race. You made your campaign about race Barrack and now it's coming back to haunt you, and everyone of us also.

hillary4change
04-08-2008, 09:04 PM
I have twin step-grandsons that were born premature. My step-daughter said that they looked like spider monkeys as they were 3 pounds when born. One gained weight faster than the other one..we call him our "Chunky Monkey" they are white, although I have step-grandkids that are black and I would refer to them as monkeys too, probably already have!!!
My skinny twin grandson has a severe speech impediment he loves Hillary. He runs around my house saying "Stop Awock Abama..Stop Awack Abama!!" He is sitting here with me now and told me to spell.."I want Hillary Clinton to win!"
He just told me to spell "We want Awack Abama to woose!!" I love my little spider monkey he is adorable and very bright as you can tell!!

NewHamster
04-08-2008, 09:52 PM
Oh my God, this is just way too much!!! A fine??? Whatever happened to freedom of speech???? "Monkey" is NOT a racial term!!! They are animals that climb trees!!!! SHEEEEEESH!!!!!!!!!

SunnyInCal
04-08-2008, 10:04 PM
I dont want her endorsement cause it will bring more problems cause she is deemed racisit so naturally Obama will link racisim to Hillary's camp

I was being sarcastic. I just hope she's thinking twice now about Obama.

SunnyInCal
04-08-2008, 10:19 PM
The monkey lady is a simpleton, but listen to her excellent commentary on Reverend Jeremiah Wright and Obama...I could NOT have done a better job myself...

YouTube - Reverend Wright Anti-American (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7u2oovQvbw)

Who exactly is the woman in this video? It can't be the Obama delegate who used the term "monkey" because she sounds like she's against Obama.

skc1976
04-09-2008, 02:07 AM
I have to give my two cents on this one. This is just STUPID! I'd be darned if anyone gave me a ticket for calling a child a monkey. And no one would stop me from saying it. Now, if I said "porch monkey," that's different. But come on people, BE SERIOUS!

It has become a very sad state of affairs in today's society. And a lot of it has been brought on us by the media. They have stirred up a hornet's nest and now America is paying for it.

I'm very disappointed in how America has become. Geez!

Patsy
04-09-2008, 02:11 AM
What's next? Are they going to go after Mike Myers when he was on SNL doing his 'cheeky monkey' routine.

I call my Godchidren monkeys everyday. And, they're typical white children.

samkm
04-09-2008, 03:24 AM
she may be in the earliest phase of kool-aid withdrawal.

Invite her to come browse us !!!:)

Morgan
04-09-2008, 04:46 AM
I found this link about the city. They have a lot of rules, stickers on cars, no parking on the street certain hours.

The woman on the right is the one that got the ticket.

http://vil.carpentersville.il.us/trustees.htm


From what I found ,there is a lot of crime there.

What doesn't add up is, how did a neighbor dispute, a mild one at that, come to the attention of Obamas campaign? The candidates don't select the delegates. They had no right to persuade her to step down.

It could have been a setup event to put a different delegate in. Who knows??

ALL4HILLARY
04-09-2008, 10:54 AM
Obama's supporters are animals, black, white , yellow red, it doesn't make any difference. Now Obama should be more critical that he had been with Ferraro. Lets see.
Obama Delegate Resigns After Remark

Tuesday, April 8, 2008 3:30 PM

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CARPENTERSVILLE, Ill. -- An Illinois delegate for Democratic Sen. Barack Obama resigned after using the word "monkeys" to describe black children playing in a tree, the Obama campaign said Tuesday.

Linda Ramirez-Sliwinski, a trustee in the Chicago suburb of Carpentersville, was issued a $75 ticket for disorderly conduct after neighbors complained to police. She says the word wasn't meant racially and she will fight the ticket.

"Given the incident, Linda Ramirez-Sliwinski is stepping down as a delegate and will be replaced," said Obama spokeswoman Amy Brundage.

http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/obama_delegate_resigns/2008/04/08/86390.html

BooskerD
04-09-2008, 11:00 AM
I hope she wins...there's no way she should be ticketed for that. The comment was clearly based on the behavior of the kids, not their race! I hope she joins the Clinton camp...

Linda C
04-09-2008, 11:09 AM
Why did she resign as a delegate for Obama? What was the process? Did someone ask her too? Seems like a allot of details have been left out.

The comment seemed fairly harmless. If someone was offended, why didn't they just discuss it like adults? Oh Bother there I go using that "adult" word again.

movingtous
04-09-2008, 11:36 AM
I don't really see how people can get mad over someone calling kids monkeys, especially if they hang out in trees! I sometimes call my own three boys monkeys, without thinking that it's somehow offensive.
All this just boils down to how politically correct this nation has become, to the point of silliness. I remember my own faux pas when I moved back to the States, after having lived in Paris for 14 years. I remember speaking with some African American friends and I described someone I knew as black. My friends seemed offended, so I corrected myself and said colored. They got even angrier, so I finally asked, ok, what is the term you want me to use? That's when I started using African American. A real eye opener for me. I also remember my sister, an Asian, getting mad that someone described her as oriental. It's so absurd:rolleyes: I had been absent from America for so long that I did not know that we were becoming absolutely ridiculous with political correctness. I didn't even know the slang term, it's not very PC. I felt like a babe discovering a whole new language, lol. Couldn't say janitor anymore...what's the new title for that anyway?

Jayling
04-09-2008, 11:40 AM
/mod hat on

merged threads

:)

Evergreen
04-09-2008, 12:15 PM
I agree with everyone here when they say things are getting out of control. I do agree racism is awful and it needs to be stopped at all costs, and people should not be given license to make offensive remarks. The problem is that if one is not PC enough they risk being sued and fired! Innocent remarks are often twisted and taken out of context. Jeesh.

Ijane
04-09-2008, 12:23 PM
Some of the articles regarding this story allude to the neighbors not getting along in the past. The mother essentially used Linda's innocent remark as an opportunity to really stick it to her. What the neighbor did was abusive to the children. It must have been very hurtful to them when the mother told them that they were being called names because they were black. It's like shattering innocence. I know that my own children would be hurt for a very long time and probably would have lifelong consequences if they were ever told that. Besides being abusive to the children it was as evil as evil gets to Linda. You don't damage someone's career and reputation. The woman knew the system and she took advantage of it on many levels.

Linda was quoted as saying that she didn't know that it was a racial slur. Well it's not and I'm glad to read that she IS going to fight the ticket.

I remember watching one of the PBS cartoons with my youngest a few years back. I don't remember which cartoon it was but the character described being cheated by using the word "Gypped". I believed that the writer didn't know, like so many people, that gyp was a derogatory term for Gypsy. That would be a situation where a person made an innocent slur out of ignorance and they needed to be educated because it's not ok. Same with using the word "jewed". Comparing children, even black children, to monkeys doesn't fall under derogatory. I know that African American people refer to their own children and children in general as monkeys and I know they understand and use it in the same context that a white person understands and uses it. They may claim the right to say that a black person can call another black person the N word but a white person can't, but they don't get to dictate who can refer to children as monkeys!

movingtous
04-09-2008, 12:49 PM
I really doubt that children are "hurt" because you call them monkeys. My own children giggle and start goofing off even more. When I gave birth to my second son, he had hair covering his back, ears, etc. I called him "mon petit singe." My little monkey. I tell him this story quite often, and he giggles and thinks it's very funny. I called another son "ma petite crevette rose" my little pink shrimp, because he was tiny and pink when he was born. He asks me to retell this story all the time. Harm is only done when people have malicious intent.

mcgowan.swan
04-09-2008, 01:04 PM
i have decided that obama wants this kind of divisive nonsense. i think his goal is to become president so he can order reparations for the african american community and he needs a really divisive gap between the races so the guilt will build up and we will approve paying people for something neither we nor they had any part in, that happened two hundred years ago. this remark is a perfectly normal remark to make. she wasnt seeing the children as any particular color, just as children playing and swinging in the tree like monkeys. that is what monkeys do. get a life!!! i used to play on the monkey bars when i was little. will we have to rename everything now that might offend someone. what a bunch of bs. everything offends someone. that is a fact of life. i, for one, am not going to watch every little thing i say to be sure i do not offend someone. As long as i mean no offense and do not say anything blatantly and obviously racist, i dont care if i am called a racist. i know i am not racist, and that is pretty much all that matters. if anyone takes anything i say the wrong way when it was clearly not meant as racist, it is their interpretation and they are bringing any indignation or hurt on themselves as it was not intended. the era of political correctness may have met it's end with obama. we of the other races may choose to just live without worrying about it anymore. obama has the ability to see racism in the shadows. some people are paranoid, but obama's new world cult has a case of being racinoid. that's a new word just for him and his followers. they suffer racinoidism. lol as stupid as i think she is for being an obama supporter in the first place, i almost want to send her an email and say very few out here think that was a racist remark. this whole thing is really so sad. the cop probably gave her the ticket because he was afraid if he didnt he would be called racist. lol thanks obama for putting us back to before 1964. good job.

SunnyInCal
04-09-2008, 01:36 PM
I don't really see how people can get mad over someone calling kids monkeys, especially if they hang out in trees! I sometimes call my own three boys monkeys, without thinking that it's somehow offensive.
All this just boils down to how politically correct this nation has become, to the point of silliness. I remember my own faux pas when I moved back to the States, after having lived in Paris for 14 years. I remember speaking with some African American friends and I described someone I knew as black. My friends seemed offended, so I corrected myself and said colored. They got even angrier, so I finally asked, ok, what is the term you want me to use? That's when I started using African American. A real eye opener for me. I also remember my sister, an Asian, getting mad that someone described her as oriental. It's so absurd:rolleyes: I had been absent from America for so long that I did not know that we were becoming absolutely ridiculous with political correctness. I didn't even know the slang term, it's not very PC. I felt like a babe discovering a whole new language, lol. Couldn't say janitor anymore...what's the new title for that anyway?

The problem is, not all blacks want to be called AA. Some say, "I'm not from Africa." They are right. So anyone with any Irish blood dating back 200 years but mostly American, do they call themselves Irish Americans? No. I think the AA community needs to come out with a list of words we can't use and agree on it, particularly after this monkey incident.

Mrsawd
04-09-2008, 03:21 PM
more obama wammys insulting bull he is really desparate
Hillary needs to after him legally to make the goverment step in stop him on grounds of suspicions of terroristic his and moral infractions

Mrsawd
04-09-2008, 03:23 PM
more obama wammys insulting bull he is really desparate
Hillary needs to after him legally to make the goverment step in stop him on grounds of suspicions of terroristic his and moral infractions

Wales for Hillary
04-18-2008, 04:14 PM
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/04/08/obama-delegate-quits-after-campaign-finds-remarks-to-neighbor-kids-to-be-%e2%80%98unacceptable%e2%80%99/

says a lot about his delegates

swannyj
04-18-2008, 04:19 PM
I believe I read (can't remember where) she decided not to quit after all?

Annie
04-18-2008, 04:22 PM
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/04/08/obama-delegate-quits-after-campaign-finds-remarks-to-neighbor-kids-to-be-%e2%80%98unacceptable%e2%80%99/

says a lot about his delegates

Barak had her fired and replaced as a delegate because her phrasing of the word 'monkeys' was racist. There is no end to this guy and Americans are going to make him President? This is worse than Bush Jr. at least you can call him lots of things but never not a Patriot or racist.

skc1976
04-19-2008, 03:10 AM
Yeah, this is older news. It still disgusts me what this race has become. "Monkeys" is not a bad term.