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Tybee
05-27-2010, 12:53 PM
For decades small business owners have been telling anyone who would listen that they need health-care reforms that lower costs. But President Obama and his allies in Congress pushed through a law that will dramatically raise health-care costs and increase the overall cost of doing business. What's more, the federal mandate requiring that nearly all U.S. residents carry health insurance by 2014 seriously threatens our basic constitutional rights and individual freedoms.

This is why the National Federation of Independent Business (NFIB), on behalf of small business owners nationwide, has joined the lawsuit with 20 states mounting a constitutional challenge to this devastating new health-care law.

This law is death by a thousand cuts for small business owners. According to the Congressional Budget Office (CBO), the overhaul will cost about $115 billion more than first projected, bringing the total to more than $1 trillion. Small businesses will also now have to deal with an onslaught of new taxes and burdensome paperwork.

Supporters say the law will significantly help small businesses, focusing on the much-talked about small business tax credit. But the reality is that the tax credit is complex and very limited because firms qualify based on number of employees and average wages. The credit, which is only available for a maximum of six years, puts small business owners through a series of complicated "tests" to determine if they qualify and how much they will receive. Fewer than one-third of small businesses even pass the first three (of four) tests to qualify: have 25 employees or less, provide health insurance, and pay 50% of the cost of that insurance.

More importantly, the credit is temporary, but health-care cost increases are permanent. When the credit ends, small businesses will be left paying full price. They'll also be forced to deal with all sorts of new taxes, fees and mandates buried in this 2,000-page law.

One of these new taxes is a so-called health insurance fee. It's a massive $8 billion tax (that escalates to $14.3 billion by 2018) on insurance companies based on their market share. This tax will be paid almost exclusively by small businesses and individuals because the law specifically excludes self-insured plans, the plans that most big businesses and labor unions offer, from having to pay the tax.

While the health insurance fee was designed to "go after" large health-insurance companies, the reality is that insurers aren't simply going to absorb this new tax; it will be passed on to customers. Specifically, it will be passed on to the plans that 87% of small businesses and individuals buy. A study by the Federal Policy Group published last October found that the amount of taxes passed on to the typical family of four could be $500 or more per year.

Adding insult to injury, the law also requires all businesses to issue IRS 1099 forms to document every business-to-business transaction of $600 or more. To someone who's never run a business, this may sound like nothing. But Congress hopes to raise $17 billion in added tax revenues and fees from this new mandate. That's hardly nothing.

The burden of raising that expected revenue falls again on the backs of small business owners who already suffer under unmanageable federal paperwork burdens. What's worse, this new reporting requirement has absolutely nothing to do with health-care reform. It was included to help pay for the nearly trillion-dollar price tag of the bill. Why should small business owners have to pay for a bill that causes them so much harm? They shouldn't, which is why NFIB is fighting against this law in court.

We also believe the health-care law is unconstitutional. The centerpiece of this law is an individual mandate requiring virtually all Americans to purchase health insurance or pay a fine. We strongly believe that the Commerce Clause of the Constitution does not give Congress the power to force individuals to purchase a private product or face a fine. Requiring individuals to purchase something simply because they are alive is unprecedented. The military draft is the only exception to this, and Congress's authority to enact the draft is provided for in the Constitution, unlike this mandate.

The individual mandate imposes unique burdens on those small business people, including many NFIB members, who are sole proprietors and the least able to afford it. These independent men and women rarely can afford to distinguish between their own "personal" resources and those of their business. The mandate will now force them to spend money on insurance they may not want, rather than using those funds to run and grow their businesses.

If this law is not overturned, then all citizens should be prepared for the long arm of the federal government to reach even further into how we choose to live our lives, spend our money and pursue our own definitions of happiness.

Health-care reform is too important to be based on an unconstitutional mandate. Small businesses need the judicial system—if necessary, the U.S. Supreme Court—to overturn this law to protect them from having to pay for a statute that causes them more harm than good and ultimately infringes on all Americans' personal freedoms.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704113504575264802756326086.html?m od=WSJ_hp_mostpop_read

foxyladi
05-27-2010, 12:56 PM
hope Nancy is happy now..they passed it so we could find out what was in it:eek::eek:

Suzan
05-27-2010, 01:19 PM
Supporters say the law will significantly help small businesses, focusing on the much-talked about small business tax credit. But the reality is that the tax credit is complex and very limited because firms qualify based on number of employees and average wages. The credit, which is only available for a maximum of six years, puts small business owners through a series of complicated "tests" to determine if they qualify and how much they will receive. Fewer than one-third of small businesses even pass the first three (of four) tests to qualify: have 25 employees or less, provide health insurance, and pay 50% of the cost of that insurance.

I wonder if the tax credit wil help my son's small business. He has a couple hundred employees and already provides health coverage.

Also, what about the opt-out fine for small businesses? I remember it being about $750 per employee. Is that not in the bill?

Suzan
05-27-2010, 01:20 PM
One of these new taxes is a so-called health insurance fee. It's a massive $8 billion tax (that escalates to $14.3 billion by 2018) on insurance companies based on their market share. This tax will be paid almost exclusively by small businesses and individuals because the law specifically excludes self-insured plans, the plans that most big businesses and labor unions offer, from having to pay the tax.

I'm wondering how/why business will be paying a tax on insurance companies based on their market share.

Suzan
05-27-2010, 01:23 PM
While the health insurance fee was designed to "go after" large health-insurance companies, the reality is that insurers aren't simply going to absorb this new tax; it will be passed on to customers. Specifically, it will be passed on to the plans that 87% of small businesses and individuals buy. A study by the Federal Policy Group published last October found that the amount of taxes passed on to the typical family of four could be $500 or more per year.

Okay, here's the answer to my question. Sounds like the bill needs to be tweaked so insurance companies aren't allowed to past the costs on.

Suzan
05-27-2010, 01:27 PM
Adding insult to injury, the law also requires all businesses to issue IRS 1099 forms to document every business-to-business transaction of $600 or more. To someone who's never run a business, this may sound like nothing. But Congress hopes to raise $17 billion in added tax revenues and fees from this new mandate. That's hardly nothing.

The burden of raising that expected revenue falls again on the backs of small business owners who already suffer under unmanageable federal paperwork burdens. What's worse, this new reporting requirement has absolutely nothing to do with health-care reform. It was included to help pay for the nearly trillion-dollar price tag of the bill. Why should small business owners have to pay for a bill that causes them so much harm? They shouldn't, which is why NFIB is fighting against this law in court.

This I agree with. It sounds like more paperwork for the sake of paperwork, which the government is famous for. And small business are already way overburdened, along with regulations that in some cases duplicate efforts and are unnecessary, mostly so government agencies can justify their existence. Also, not sure what every business to business transaction has to do with health insurance.

samurai007
05-27-2010, 01:34 PM
Okay, here's the answer to my question. Sounds like the bill needs to be tweaked so insurance companies aren't allowed to past the costs on.

The only way to prevent the cost from being passed on is to fix the price of all insurance policies, and second, fix the benefits of those policies so that the insurance company doesn't lower benefits to make up for the fact it can't increase costs. And at that point, you have a command economy in the insurance business, with the govt telling them what they can sell, and how much they can sell it for. Then add in the punitive taxes that were the reason for the price and benefit fixing, and it may no longer be worth it to run an insurance company, and they're driven out of business.

samurai007
05-27-2010, 01:39 PM
I wonder if the tax credit wil help my son's small business. He has a couple hundred employees and already provides health coverage.

Also, what about the opt-out fine for small businesses? I remember it being about $750 per employee. Is that not in the bill?

First, he'd need to fire all but 25 employees. Then he'd have to check and make sure he isn't paying the remaining people too much, since the more you pay them, the less benefit you get. In order to get the maximum tax credit of 35%, you need to have 10 employees or less, and the average pay for them must be $25,000 or less per year. And even if you manage to meet those qualifications, the tax credit expires in 6 years, and then you have to pay the full amount again.

sojourner
05-27-2010, 01:41 PM
The only way to prevent the cost from being passed on is to fix the price of all insurance policies, and second, fix the benefits of those policies so that the insurance company doesn't lower benefits to make up for the fact it can't increase costs. And at that point, you have a command economy in the insurance business, with the govt telling them what they can sell, and how much they can sell it for. Then add in the punitive taxes that were the reason for the price and benefit fixing, and it may no longer be worth it to run an insurance company, and they're driven out of business. Wasn't that the plan from the start?

samurai007
05-27-2010, 01:47 PM
Wasn't that the plan from the start?

Yes, it was. Barney Frank said as much.

Tybee
05-27-2010, 02:35 PM
First, he'd need to fire all but 25 employees. Then he'd have to check and make sure he isn't paying the remaining people too much, since the more you pay them, the less benefit you get. In order to get the maximum tax credit of 35%, you need to have 10 employees or less, and the average pay for them must be $25,000 or less per year. And even if you manage to meet those qualifications, the tax credit expires in 6 years, and then you have to pay the full amount again.

Easy as pie. Tough luck for those extra employees, but hey, they can get on the government dole. :rolleyes:

cindyb
05-27-2010, 03:20 PM
Sounds like Congress is doing its' part to hold down our wages in America. Yippee

foxyladi
05-27-2010, 06:28 PM
more paper work.

Spang
05-28-2010, 12:53 AM
Debunking More Myths on the Affordable Care Act and Small Business

Today, an opinion piece in the Wall Street Journal misstates many provisions of the Affordable Care Act and fails to mention the many ways the new law will improve our health care system for small business owners and their employees. Here are the facts:

Bringing Down Costs, Reducing the Deficit
Without reform, health care costs will continue to crush business and government budgets. The Affordable Care Act reverses this trend. Americans buying comparable coverage to what they have today in the individual market would see premiums fall by 14 to 20 percent. The total cost of care provided to Americans who get their insurance through the workplace could fall by as much as $3,000 a person and lower costs will make it easier for businesses to provide quality benefits to their employees. And the Congressional Budget Office has also confirmed that the Affordable Care Act will reduce the deficit by more than $100 billion by the end of the decade and lead to even greater deficit reduction in the next decade.

Cost Reduction and Tax Credits for Small Business
An estimated 4 million small businesses nationwide could qualify for a small business tax credit this year, which will provide a total of $40 billion in relief for small firms over the next 10 years. These tax credits are specifically targeted to the small firms that find it hardest to provide insurance to their workers. Qualifying for the credits isn’t difficult, nor does it require small business owners to fill out a long series of new forms. You can learn more about the tax credits here.

But tax credits aren’t the only way small businesses will benefit from the Affordable Care Act. A number of reforms in the new law will bring down premiums and health care costs for all Americans. Those reforms include rewarding providers for providing high-quality care and fighting waste, fraud and abuse. The new law also gives small businesses access to Small Business Health Options Program (SHOP) Exchanges. Currently, small businesses pay 18 percent more in premiums and higher administrative costs than large businesses. SHOP exchanges will expand the purchasing power of small businesses and the Congressional Budget Office has confirmed that they will help drive premiums down.

Requiring Insurance Companies to Pay Their Fair Share
Under the Affordable Care Act, insurance companies will have access to millions of new customers, many of whom will receive support from the federal government to purchase private insurance. With insurance companies reaping such a substantial benefit, it’s only right for them to pay their fair share and do their part to reform and improve our health care system. An analysis of the impact of reform legislation on insurance premiums by the Congressional Budget Office found that the impact of insurance industry fees on small firms would be “modest,” and that even after accounting for these fees, small group plans will face lower premiums to purchase health insurance coverage.

Reporting Requirements
Beginning in 2013, the new law includes provisions requiring new information reporting on the purchase of certain goods. Some in the business community have expressed concerns with this provision and the IRS is looking for every way to minimize any burden on businesses and avoid duplicative reporting. For example, the IRS has already indicated that transactions done with a credit or debit card will be exempt from this provision, so whenever a business uses a credit card for a purchase, there will be no reporting requirement under the new law. The IRS is working diligently to answer questions on this provision and will consider alternate approaches and continue to seek out input and comments from small businesses in the weeks and months ahead.

The Bottom Line
The Affordable Care Act will bring down costs and improve health care for all Americans – including small business owners and their employees. You can learn more about the benefits of the new law for small businesses by clicking here.

The Source (http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2010/05/27/debunking-more-myths-affordable-care-act-and-small-business)

Kelle
05-28-2010, 01:04 AM
Okay, here's the answer to my question. Sounds like the bill needs to be tweaked so insurance companies aren't allowed to past the costs on.

You sound surprised. You didn't see this coming?

kel

foxyladi
05-28-2010, 10:44 AM
Okay, here's the answer to my question. Sounds like the bill needs to be tweaked so insurance companies aren't allowed to past the costs on.

needs a little more then tweaking:)