"The Myth of the Gore/Carter Plot" - Latest LIE Designed to Draw Attention Away from Obama's Potentially Campaign-Ending Comments about PA Voters!

[CGP]

The article linked below is designed to draw attention away from Obama's potentially campaign-ending comments about PA voters.

Remember that.

I am posting this article link only because most people will no doubt be exposed to it because the Internet is Obamanet. Rest assured this latest piece of vile propaganda (unvetted "story" that Gore/Carter are hatching to force Hillary "out") is a BLATANT & TRANSPARENT attempt to draw attention away from Obama's latest disaster. It's also a BLATANT & TRANSPARENT attempt to demoralize Clinton supporters into thinking the game is all but over and to just rally behind Obama in PA. Don't fall for this SH*T. It's complete B/S spread by Obama surrogates and supporters.

So if you must read this rubbish, you can do so here:

http://news.scotsman.com/latestnews/It39s-Obama-stupid-Carter-and.3976738.jp

YOUR TASK: TO KEEP UP THE ATTENTION ON OBAMA'S ENDLIST LIST OF POLITICAL DISASTERS & POLITICAL FLAWS!

[Jayling]

And folks, please refrain from starting any additional threads concerning this. If you want to comment on the piece, use this thread.

Whether this 'unidentified confidential insider' information is true or not, it lacks credence and relevancy.

[joeysky18]

I knew that it's nothing close to the truth the moment i saw it.

Dump tactic from Obots. It will hurt them more when no Gore or Carter come out with the endorsement.

[Santiago]

I saw it posted before you "disappeared" it and thought it was bogus and posted by an Otroll.

[Santiago]

Even IF they come out for BS...oops..I mean BO, I don't think it will have an impact.

[Jayling]

And if folks do decide to read it, please go with these very important, up to date facts in mind:

http://www.diversityj.com/images/PopularVotesBoth2.jpg

Of which you shall see a + next to Clinton's name in just 10 days. And as a note, she has been ahead in Popular Votes throughout the majority of the election season.

[ssmith]

thanks murray...carter , really the only thing I admire him for is the habitat 4 humanity...now he visits hamas, after they have threatned to kill americans, and have in some instances...as someone who has lots of friends who serve to protect this country.. this latest stunt by carter is a slap in the face to me...

you're right this gore/carter is a rumor... gore already said let this play out...and frankly they would look like idiots endorsing obama after he insulted a bulk of the democratic base....NO TO BO!

[joeysky18]

And if folks do decide to read it, please go with these very important, up to date facts in mind:

I love your graphic so much. :cool:

[SadStateOfAffairs]

Well now. That's the very reason you all decided to start this website, and why we're all here. No?

We will stop this vile, elitist, left wing, good ol' boys club, right here, right now. The pressure is on and they're pitching a hissy fit. Well I think that's a good thing. Gosh, it's amazing what they will resort to when they don't get their way.

But, what can you expect from Carter, (history's worst president) and Mr. Gore, (the president who wasn't.) Sour Grapes I say. Sour Grapes!

[Morgan]

Gore was on one of the talking head shows, maybe Larry King and it was hinted for him to be a referee on this. Gore said, no way would he become involved.

[Christines]

If they tried a trick like that, McCain would be our next president!:mad:

[RachachaSharon]

I couldn't even finish reading that crap. Ignoring it . . .!

[SunnyInCal]

My only reply is why isn't this on the mainstream internet? It's on some weird, non mainstream sites.

And who is the author? I did a google search of his name and nothing really stood out. You'd think if he had this information, he'd be a big wig in the journalism industry.

Gore just came out on tv and said he didn't want any part of it. Was he lying? I really respect Gore, I don't think he was lying, so I think it's hogwash.

[Jan26]

Here's a link to some other articles by Chris Stephen which mention Obama.
http://www.journalisted.com/chris-stephen/obama

He's MSM-UK.

Here's a link to The Guardian's assessment (and no mention of Gore/Carter) of Hillary's chances.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/apr/13/hillaryclinton.barackobama

[Musicdude]

I didn't read the whole article. Its basis was SO clueless!

Carter and Gore - party top brass? ahahahahaha!!!!

Bill won more presidential elections than both those guys combined\!


The Clintons ARE the top brass!

[Carolyn]

Oh yeah like Hillary would listen to either of them for a nanosecond.

[Charlie Brown]

I couldn't even finish reading that crap. Ignoring it . . .!

i MADE IT ABOUT 1/2 WAY THROUGH...

[Patsy]

Have you ever noticed that the only people who talk to The Scotsman are the Obama people?

[camoderate]

Even if this crap is true, the boat has already sailed. How many Hill supporters do you know who would be good little democrats and vote for this buffoon? Enough said. Bring them on it will only lower their credibility and book sales. Besides would it really surprise anyone if these too supported Obama. These two lost even with my vote – like I saw someone say at the protest – voting for McCain (if Obama wins) is liking having two votes, one he does not get and another for McCain (and its legal).

[freethinker]

Good grief! What a bogus bunch of unsubstantiated nonsense. At least if the writer is going to spin a good tale, make it if not credible, at least have some positive leverage for Obama. This kind of alliance for BO could spell trouble. Think about it....

Followed to a natural conclusion, this situation just opens the door to Hillary for a number of excellent rejoinders that make her look like a superior, sympathetic and patriotic candidate!!!

First:

In addition to the fact that Gore has already said he wants as much distance from this campaign snarl as he can get, he is famously bitter about the corrupt vote count in Florida that robbed him of the Presidency!!! I invite him to step in so Hillary has a chance to bring up the topic of disenfranchised voters in Florida. His loss of the election due to Florida is a conversation I want to have back on the table!!!

Second:

The idea of Carter, (to whom Obama is being compared in a negative way) currently making awful press for himself and America by cavorting with Hamas, thinking his entreaties would have any impact on a patriot like Senator Clinton, is laughable! I actually hope he tries to pull something like this so Hillary has an opportunity to denounce and reject his ill-advised gamesmanship in foreign affairs! As some have said here before, Carter needs to go home and tend to his peanut farm and let more capable people stand guard over our country's allies in the Middle East! What do we remember best about the Carter administration? Oh, yea. The Iran, the Ayatollah and the hostage crisis! He and BO make a good pair, tho.

Bring it on. More points for Hillary in my book!!!

[Charlie Brown]

Good grief! What a bogus bunch of unsubstantiated nonsense. At least if the writer is going to spin a good tale, make it if not credible, at least have some positive leverage for Obama. This kind of alliance for BO could spell trouble. Think about it....

Followed to a natural conclusion, this situation just opens the door to Hillary for a number of excellent rejoinders that make her look like a superior, sympathetic and patriotic candidate!!!

First:

In addition to the fact that Gore has already said he wants as much distance from this campaign snarl as he can get, he is famously bitter about the corrupt vote count in Florida that robbed him of the Presidency!!! I invite him to step in so Hillary has a chance to bring up the topic of disenfranchised voters in Florida. His loss of the election due to Florida is a conversation I want to have back on the table!!!

Second:

The idea of Carter, (to whom Obama is being compared in a negative way) currently making awful press for himself and America by cavorting with Hamas, thinking his entreaties would have any impact on a patriot like Senator Clinton, is laughable! I actually hope he tries to pull something like this so Hillary has an opportunity to denounce and reject his ill-advised gamesmanship in foreign affairs! As some have said here before, Carter needs to go home and tend to his peanut farm and let more capable people stand guard over our country's allies in the Middle East! What do we remember best about the Carter administration? Oh, yea. The Iran, the Ayatollah and the hostage crisis! He and BO make a good pair, tho.

Bring it on. More points for Hillary in my book!!!

Gotta love freethinker...Thanks pal!

[BloodDAnna]

When his newest foot inserted into mouth story broke I told the spouse that in a few days you would see something to totally draw attention away from him and HERE IT IS

[CGP]

Well, I think we have effectively dismissed this for the total BULLSH*T that it is ! :cool:

[Wales for Hillary]

i MADE IT ABOUT 1/2 WAY THROUGH...

This article was like watching MSNBC. You really dont want to and know you shouldn't, but its good for a laugh.

Doesnt it seem written by the Obama campaign and planted in a far away news source hoping that it does the rounds. What are the Scots doing scooping MSNBC for this story any way. Im sure they have a guy following Gore 24/7 begging for him to endorse Obama. No way they would have been outscooped on this story.

[Tea toaD]

Former president Carter and former vice-president Gore have already held high-level discussions about delivering the message that she must stand down for the good of the Democrats


So Obama can insult small town America, lie about his involvement with Rev. Wright and Hillary is the one they want to step down? All for the good of the party? This is pure rubbish? A deflection for Mr. Teflon Elitist after his huge blunder. As*clown politics:mad:

[abigailadams]

http://news.scotsman.com/latestnews/It39s-Obama-stupid-Carter-and.3976738.jp

Gore and Carter to endorse Obama??

Would Gore endorse a man who is supporting Ethanol??

[abigailadams]

Thank you I was freaking ouT!!!!


Thank goodness....

[abigailadams]

Sorry, I JUST saw it on that vile DU.(I know I shouldn't go there!)

Thank you, thank you,.

[CGP]

Sorry, I JUST saw it on that vile DU.(I know I shouldn't go there!)

Thank you, thank you,.

Yes, best not to go there. It's TOXIC to the mind!

[SunnyInCal]

Now on fox, just briefly they talked about the Carter-Gore article that was posted here the other day. They didn't really go into whether it's true or not, they just mentioned it.

[Charlie Brown]

fox is reporting this now.....go!!!!!

[Patsy]

Just saw on Fox the article from The Scotsman.... I don't know if they're going to analyze it or not, they just went into the tirade about Carter meeting with exiled Hamas Leader...

[Santiago]

15 second snipet.

[CGP]

This ridiculous topic is getting one thread MAX of attention.

[Charlie Brown]

Hey You Guys Is Fox Trying To Expose The Dnc I Have Been Wondering For A Couple Days Now,anyone Else Notice This???

[luvhillary]

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/04/13/report-carter-and-gore-to-team-up-against-clinton-to-end-her-presidential-bid/

“They’re in discussions,” a source close to Carter reportedly told the newspaper. “Carter has been talking to Gore. They will act, possibly together, or in sequence.”

According to the report, the two party elders will either meet with Clinton privately to urge that she withdraw her candidacy or they will publicly endorse Obama in the hopes that more superdelegates will follow suit.

OMG! I hope this isn't true. I'm pissed off!!!:mad:

[PuppyDogMom]

They would be doing a ton of damage to the credibility of the Democratic party if there's any left. It would mean that the general election is not important to them because there's no way that Obama could win.

What could they be thinking? Or, why AREN'T they thinking?

[CGP]

One thread only for this BULLSH*T.

[luvhillary]

Sorry Murray. Didn't see the other thread. Thanks for merging so I could see your other points. I'll calm down now.

[PuppyDogMom]

One thread only for this BULLSH*T.

Murray, you're quick! I was just writing a response, did a refresh, and POOF, it was gone.

Phew...I feel better now!

[ginamc]

Let's take what this newspaper says with a grain of salt. Gore said No, he wasn't doing anything until Convention -- I hope that's the case. But, Murray, you're right -- it is a diversion. That's what they are the best at.

BTW-- they are already trashing Elizabeth Edwards as not having integrity because she believes that Hillary's Health Care Plan is the best. These people are ruthless. Don't forget it. We just had our Senatorial Convention 2 weeks ago in Texas, and they are ruthless!

[CGP]

BTW-- they are already trashing Elizabeth Edwards as not having integrity because she believes that Hillary's Health Care Plan is the best.

Exactly, so that if John Edwards comes out and endorses Clinton they can trash that...

Yawn...

[CGP]

This "story" and PROPAGANDA has 2 aims:

1) to divert attention away from Obama's disastrous comments about PA voters

2) to try and demoralize Clinton supporters going into the PA primary - to get them thinking "it's all over, so why bother"

DON'T FALL FOR LIES & be sure to keep up the heat when you are blogging and keep the FOCUS on Obama's snobbery, elitism and bigotry and his views about the average American - "typical white person"..."bitter, clinging to guns and religion"...you know...

[TeejDee]

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/04/13/report-carter-and-gore-to-team-up-against-clinton-to-end-her-presidential-bid/

And Carter is meeting with Hamas? What is that all about?

[Jake501]

Aye, it ticks me off so bad. What the heck is wrong with letting people vote?!?

[TeejDee]

http://news.scotsman.com/politics/It39s-Obama-stupid-Carter-and.3976738.jp

Here is the actual reported article in the Scotsman newspaper.

[NewHamster]

Jimmy, Al, please don't do it. I really don't want to not like you.

[Artists4Hillary]

I don't believe that trash about Gore. He firmly stated he's staying out of this.

[maximuss]

This "story" and PROPAGANDA has 2 aims:

1) to divert attention away from Obama's disastrous comments about PA voters

2) to try and demoralize Clinton supporters going into the PA primary - to get them thinking "it's all over, so why bother"

DON'T FALL FOR LIES & be sure to keep up the heat when you are blogging and keep the FOCUS on Obama's snobbery, elitism and bigotry and his views about the average American - "typical white person"..."bitter, clinging to guns and religion"...you know...

I aggree. They are also using other stories too. In my posting 2 days ago i predicted that this would happen. The story was going to break the day after Obama made the comments but they managed to convince their corrupt friends in the MSM to break it late friday. I believe they already had plans to divert attention away from the comments .This included resurrecting the Bosnia story. I believe they are also trying to attack Bill with stories about Colombia and The Library. Other attempts include making stories about Obama PA newspaper endorsements major news. When last did a Clinton endorsement make it to the MSM.
I think we should actually encourage Carter to endorse Obama . At present Carter is a liability , he is having bad press of his own about Hamas , anti -semitism.
All this should remind us to continue to canvas for HRC and keep up with the ground work. We must continue to spread the good and positive news about HRCs message to voters . I expect even more attempts to kill the story by the Obama campaign in the next few days.

[abigailadams]

Yes, he did and it would be suicide for Gore to do this.

[Annie]

And if folks do decide to read it, please go with these very important, up to date facts in mind:

http://www.diversityj.com/images/PopularVotesBoth2.jpg

Of which you shall see a + next to Clinton's name in just 10 days. And as a note, she has been ahead in Popular Votes throughout the majority of the election season.


Jayling that is an interesting little graph - does it include the Florida and Michigan votes. I notice the popular votes have now been officially certified by election officials and tallied by secretary of states..... what is happening regarding that?

Would be nice to have a sticky on this alone without the other scotsman stuff.....

[SD]

i didn't read it. i won't stop and i won't accept that it is over until hillary tells me it is over.

[DarrellP]

I read in a article just a few mintues ago when I googled Hillary Clinton, and low and behold that Al Gore and Jimmy Carter may team up to pressure Hillary to leave the race, and let Obama have the nomination for the good of the party, If this happens, and Hillary is pressured to leave this race, this Black AmericanI will be staying home on General Election Day, or in protest to block Obama Presidency, I may vote for Ralph Nader or McCain or Vote for Hillary as a "Write-In Presidenial Candidate", I will not unite behind Obama or this Party if Obama becomes the nominee, because I just don't trust this man, and he's too inxperienced and arrogant.

I may just leave the Democartic Party all together and go Independent if Hillary is directly or indirectly pressured or forced to quit her campaign, I still see that some men in this country still don't like the ideal of a woman President running this country, if another man was runing against Obama in this party for the nomination, Obama would have been toast a long time ago, but since Hillary is a woman candidate, they rather have an novice elitetis Senator be the Democratic Nominee over an experienced strong woman candidate like Hillary. Ladies and Gentleman, all fellow Hillary Supporters, the Glass Ceiling for women to obtain the highest government office in America is still present, but we must still keep in encouraging Hillary that she still has strong support and backing to finish this race until the end no matter what happens, we are not going to sit back quitely and let these people push this woman around and boot her out of this race, no way, no how, it's just not happening, Hillary's "In It, To Win It".

We must continue to aggressively encourage her to fight the good fight and continue to give Obama a run for his money, and if Hillary should lose the Nomination anyway, we must encourage her to run as an "Write-In" Independent Presidential Candidate, I still believe she could still win the Presidency this way as well, this would be payback for some of her fellow Democratic Leaders and Obama Supporters throwing her under the bus for a Johnny Come Lately Senator who do not know waht the heck he's doing, if Obama becomes President, I predict that the country would be in a worser shape than it is now, God Forbid, We need to stop Obama before this happens, by pressuring the Super-Delegates and all Party Leaders and Officals not to give Obama the nomination, but instead, give it to a more experienced candidate, Hillary who is better prepared to clean-up and fix the mess Bush will leave behind in 2009, if Obama becomes the nominee, our party may be doomed and shattered for many years to come.

[RachachaSharon]

OK, I don't get the high profile blunders bit. She made one mistake to about 500 BO ahhhhh uuuuummmm open mouth insert foot comments. Who believes this crap?

[CGP]

OK, I don't get the high profile blunders bit. She made one mistake to about 500 BO ahhhhh uuuuummmm open mouth insert foot comments. Who believes this crap?

No-one does. That's the point. It's pure LIES & PROPAGANDA.

[Jayling]

And if folks do decide to read it, please go with these very important, up to date facts in mind:

http://www.diversityj.com/images/PopularVotesBoth2.jpg

Of which you shall see a + next to Clinton's name in just 10 days. And as a note, she has been ahead in Popular Votes throughout the majority of the election season.


Jayling that is an interesting little graph - does it include the Florida and Michigan votes. I notice the popular votes have now been officially certified by election officials and tallied by secretary of states..... what is happening regarding that?

Would be nice to have a sticky on this alone without the other scotsman stuff.....
Annie, both graphs have either 'with FL & MI' or 'without FL & MI' written on each of them :)

And what does it mean when the votes are officially certified by election officials? The votes of The People have been counted and certified by each Secretary of State. Though the media and pundits, plus the DNC, may want to spin it otherwise -- they can't get around the truth. The voters have spoken. The votes have been certified. Don't let anyone bluff you with nonsense.

:)

[Peppermint Patty]

The article linked below is designed to draw attention away from Obama's potentially campaign-ending comments about PA voters. Remember that.

I am posting this article link only because most people will no doubt be exposed to it because the Internet is Obamanet. Rest assured this latest piece of vile propaganda (unvetted "story" that Gore/Carter are hatching to force Hillary "out") is a BLATANT & TRANSPARENT attempt to draw attention away from Obama's latest disaster. It's also a BLATANT & TRANSPARENT attempt to demoralize Clinton supporters into thinking the game is all but over and to just rally behind Obama in PA. Don't fall for this SH*T. It's complete B/S spread by Obama surrogates and supporters.

So if you must read this rubbish, you can do so here:

http://news.scotsman.com/latestnews/It39s-Obama-stupid-Carter-and.3976738.jp

YOUR TASK: TO KEEP UP THE ATTENTION ON OBAMA'S ENDLIST LIST OF POLITICAL DISASTERS & POLITICAL FLAWS!

I felt it was my duty to post the following (I have been reading this paper online for about 4 years now!)

From LaLaLand,
Los Angeles 14/04/2008 04:09:44
Great Scot!!! I'm sorry but this story sounds like an Obamabot plant! First of all, Jimmy Carter, not very well thought of here in America. A failed 1-term media created President who didn't accomplish much except to pave the way for the Reagan years. Gore would never ask Hillary to stop; he has been quoted as saying he believes it should go all the way to the convention and it will. Gore owes the DNC nothing as they did not have his back during the 2000 election debacle. They pressured him to stop the recount for the "good of the country." That was a huge concession for him. His own party didn't back him, so what does he owe them now? NOTHING. He's sitting back and laughing at the DNC and its leaders twisting in the wind while Clinton continues to march on. So why on earth would he ask Hillary to stop for the "good of the DNC???" Obama is clueless about who the voters are in middle America. After his recent elitist comments about small towns he's shown his true feelings. How many more lies, blunders, boneheaded moves and comments can Obama make before the DNC comes to their senses and asks HIM to bow out and let Hillary Clinton take the nomination and win this thing in November? Hillary Clinton is the best candidate and completely vetted. Obama would be a disaster and the Republicans are just salivating at all the stuff they can pull out of their war chest to use on him. He will be swift boated and Willie Browned to death!

:D

[CGP]

I felt it was my duty to post the following (I have been reading this paper online for about 4 years now!)

:D

Thank you for a great submission.

[WV4Hillary]

Guys..nothing to worry about.

Gore has said time and time again he's staying out of it. He wouldn't backstab the man who chose him as VP!

As for Carter, I didn't read it but I was on ABC on that political punch thing..and I saw a story to the side and it said something like "Carter says he won't vote until the convention"

So...umm..this is a lie. lol

[Peppermint Patty]

Guys..nothing to worry about.

Gore has said time and time again he's staying out of it. He wouldn't backstab the man who chose him as VP!

As for Carter, I didn't read it but I was on ABC on that political punch thing..and I saw a story to the side and it said something like "Carter says he won't vote until the convention"

So...umm..this is a lie. lol

Oh the minute I saw the article I wasn't worried. I knew it had to be a plant, propaganda to deflect another NObama foot-in-mouth gaffe!

God, I can't wait for Hillary to BLOW him out of the water in PA!!!!!!!!

[Peppermint Patty]

Thank you for a great submission.

You're welcome. After a weekend (and a hot one here in L.A. - 97 today!) of making phone calls my voice gave out... so am now turning to blogging, to use my writing now where it will make a difference. :)

[BloodDAnna]

Thats was taken from a Scottish paper called the Scotsman I think...heard it on some political show this morning while I did laundry.

[lynfreedom]

I haven't read it yet but from the postings, it is hard to believe Gore would do anything. I will see what I can find. As far as Carter, he was on one of the Sunday morning news this morning...I will have to go back to the tape to review which one it was. They were discussing his meeting and why he would do it. ah..found it. The following are his comments on endorsements and why he is doing the meeting with Hamas.

ABC News' Mary Bruce Reports: Former President Jimmy Carter confirmed in an exclusive "This Week" interview with George Stephanopoulos that he will not be endorsing any time soon. "The only thing I know is that, I have not made an endorsement, and don't intend to, until the time of the convention."

On the state of the Democratic race, Carter said he agreed that superdelegates should not overturn the will of the people but that "any superdelegate who wishes to deviate from that opinion should be perfectly free to do so."

Just -- and I got permission, by the way, from my children and grandchildren, and their spouses, to reveal their intention. I haven't yet revealed what my intention is directly, or my wife.

STEPHANOPOULOS: Speaker Pelosi has said that the superdelegates should not overturn the will of the people, that that's not what they are supposed to do, and that they should basically vote for, or not overturn, the winner of the pledged delegates.

Do you agree with that standard?

CARTER: I basically agree with it. But I think that any superdelegate who wishes to deviate from that opinion should be perfectly free to do so.

As a matter of fact, some of the top superdelegates in Massachusetts, for instance, publicly endorsed Obama, and then their state went for Mrs. Clinton. My hometown, my county, my state went overwhelmingly for Obama. But if I decided later on to support Mrs. Clinton, I would feel free to do so."


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"It's very important that at least someone meet with the Hamas leaders to express their views, to ascertain what flexibility they have, to try to induce them to stop all attacks against innocent civilians in Israel and to cooperate with the Fatah as a group that unites the Palestinians," Carter said in an exclusive interview with George Stephanopoulos on ABC News' "This Week."

"There's no doubt in anyone's mind that if Israel is ever going to find peace with justice concerning the relationship with their next-door neighbors, the Palestinians, that Hamas will have to be included in the process," Carter added. "I think someone should be meeting with Hamas to see what we can do to encourage them to be cooperative and to find out what their attitude." However, the 39th president was also quick to point out that his trip is not an official visit, and comes out of the ongoing work of a Carter Center project to promote peace in the Middle East.

"I'm not going as a mediator or a negotiator," he explained. "My overwhelming commitment is to support fully the peace effort that has been supported and endorsed by President Bush and by Secretary Condoleezza Rice, and by the Israelis and the Palestinians."

[Charlie Brown]

I felt it was my duty to post the following (I have been reading this paper online for about 4 years now!)

:D

Thank you Patrice...

[WV4Hillary]

Now Fox News is reporting the story on their website. Sounds like the PERFECT thing they've dreamed up to shift the focus from his bitter remark.

[samkm]

Well, Well,..

Let's see.. BO...
we are stupid hillbillies in small-town U.S. of A... and we will believe anything you dish out! so you think.. Wright.. Wright... Wright...

Well, God DAMN YOU! Take your stories and shove 'em.

Small town people are getting a little BITTER sick of your lies.

And you BITTER believe it.

[cowymom]

I just read a front page article on foxnews website which states that J. Carter and Gore are trying to team up against hillary and urge her to quit, and if she doesn't they'll openly endorse obama. these guys are screwing us up. they really want to eliminate hillary at all cost.

[Soaring Eagle]

Boneheads! What just because Jimmy Carter and Al Gore say to quit they think Hillary will quit? Morons!

[Santiago]

Murray posted the dubious source from a Scottish paper yesterday. Fox is quoting them.

[Peppermint Patty]

It's obviously a propaganda plant by Obama to deflect from his small town gaffe remarks.

See the link to this thread:

http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=5808

[lynfreedom]

check the thread
Latest LIE Designed to Draw Attention Away from Obama's Potentially Campaign-Ending Comments about PA Voters - "The Gore/Carter Plot"

I posted comments from Carter interview today.

[cowymom]

what thread are you talking about?

[CGP]

Must be up to about merge #5 by this point.

The carter/gore story is total BULLSH*T.

Please don't waste your time on it.

[cowymom]

ok Murray, thank u for letting me know because honestly i was almost catching a heart attack. what is so fascinating about this race is the obama people play straight dirty politics and it seems as if no one is noticing that.

[mjoynaples]

Murray here it comes the new report is being announced... Al Gore and Carter... Barack is hurting now they are pitting Al Gore against ClintonS it is disgusting.. by the way Carter is too busy with Hamas right now don't you think?

email FOX bad press here too....

[SadStateOfAffairs]

Murray here it comes the new report is being announced... Al Gore and Carter... Barack is hurting now they are pitting Al Gore against ClintonS it is disgusting.. by the way Carter is too busy with Hamas right now don't you think?

email FOX bad press here too....

I think Hillary already distanced herself from Gore and Kerry last night by saying they were out of touch and elitist. And Carter? Who cares. That guy was a disaster for our country. The champagne democrats are trying to highjack our party. Where's the whisky!:eek:

[Carolyn]

Did Carter and Gore actually endorse Obama? I heard rumors they might try to get Hillary to step aside, but an actual endorsement? LOSERS

[mjoynaples]

Did Carter and Gore actually endorse Obama? I heard rumors they might try to get Hillary to step aside, but an actual endorsement? LOSERS


Carter implies he will because his state did and his family are all for BO however, he is not saying until the convention... and GORE says nothing hoping he will step up and refute this inaccuaracy because he said he wouldn't do this...

[memphis]

Most democratic women like Al Gore and wanted him as President. If he endorses Obama, this will hurt him in many ways.
And I have respected Carter but lately maybe he just need to retire.

[Annie]

All this is not worth the paper it's printed on or the media it is launched on. Ignore.

[SadStateOfAffairs]

Murray here it comes the new report is being announced... Al Gore and Carter... Barack is hurting now they are pitting Al Gore against ClintonS it is disgusting.. by the way Carter is too busy with Hamas right now don't you think?

email FOX bad press here too....

I think Murray posted on this Gore/Carter "news".....as being propaganda spread by the BO camp. Let us know if you hear them actually come out and support Obama. If they do, than they are just flat out lairs as they said repeatadly they would not do this.

[Wyoming Dem]

I listened to the whole thing and by the end it was rather vague and "well, maybe by June & Gore's people say he won't take sides...yadee,yade,yadee" Unnamed source, etc.

[samkm]

The truth is both candidates are neck to neck close. I really mean that. There is so much coming out that DNP probably should be concerned about BO at this stage. He is fast unelectable, if not so already. More news is still to come.

Meanwhile you have seen Jayling's summary of statistics. It is ENTIRELY accurate. Hillary can win this in November. She has no new surprises to come in October.

So, stop listening to all this who wants her out of the race. first of all it may or may not be true. If it is, it is going to put some mud on their faces for coming out with such ridiculous statement. Most politicos know that.

What WE can do is make phonecalls. I think we are all committed individuals here. Making phonecalls is easy and the most effective way to get the voters. For the most part, they actually want us to reach out to them. Most of them are still not well informed. Undecided are ACTUALLY LISTENING!!! It is our time to reach them!

[Artists4Hillary]

Gore firmly stated he was staying out of this.

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[Hoosier]

Jimmy and Al endorsement's of Obama won't change my mind. This party is over. The DNC backed the wrong horse.

[samkm]

Hoosier, no the party is far from over.

If the purpose of this Forum is just to feel reassured or to panic, we are not doing our candidate any favors.

WHAT WE CAN DO TODAY THROUGH ANOTHER 7 REMAINING DAYS IS MAKE PHONE CALLS TO VOTERS. THAT WILL CHANGE THE OUTCOME. IN THE MEANTIME, NOTHING IS GOING TO CHANGE EXCEPT GIVING ROOM FOR SOMEONE ELSE TO REACH OUR UNDECIDED AND POTENTIALLY COMMITTED VOTERS WHO HAVE NOT YET BEEN REACHED.

[califlefty]

I think an Carter endorsement would hurt Obama tremendously - I hope he makes the endorsement from Syria, with a Hamas spokesperson by his side.

[SunnyInCal]

Ok, so in the END all the did was repeat the rumor on fox???

[Hoosier]

Hoosier, no the party is far from over.

If the purpose of this Forum is just to feel reassured or to panic, we are not doing our candidate any favors.

WHAT WE CAN DO TODAY THROUGH ANOTHER 7 REMAINING DAYS IS MAKE PHONE CALLS TO VOTERS. THAT WILL CHANGE THE OUTCOME. IN THE MEANTIME, NOTHING IS GOING TO CHANGE EXCEPT GIVING ROOM FOR SOMEONE ELSE TO REACH OUR UNDECIDED AND POTENTIALLY COMMITTED VOTERS WHO HAVE NOT YET BEEN REACHED.

With all due respect. I am not looking for reassurance and I am not about to panic. I am entitled to my opinion and I think the Democratic party IS done. I am also getting sick and tried of you pushing me to make phone calls. Please stop.

[Santiago]

Fox just quoted Carter as saying that whover has the delagate lead at the end should get the SD vote.

[RachachaSharon]

The truth is both candidates are neck to neck close. I really mean that. There is so much coming out that DNP probably should be concerned about BO at this stage. He is fast unelectable, if not so already. More news is still to come.

Meanwhile you have seen Jayling's summary of statistics. It is ENTIRELY accurate. Hillary can win this in November. She has no new surprises to come in October.

So, stop listening to all this who wants her out of the race. first of all it may or may not be true. If it is, it is going to put some mud on their faces for coming out with such ridiculous statement. Most politicos know that.

What WE can do is make phonecalls. I think we are all committed individuals here. Making phonecalls is easy and the most effective way to get the voters. For the most part, they actually want us to reach out to them. Most of them are still not well informed. Undecided are ACTUALLY LISTENING!!! It is our time to reach them!

The DNC is ONLY worried about money. BO has all those millionaires contributing to him and I think it's slim pickins on the home front. They want this to end because of the money - plain and simple - and they want to ditch Hillary even though BO is fast living up to his initials.

[mooaks]

I think everyone is a little edgy from the long, long, wait between primary's.
I do have to admit, and I am guilty myself, of trying to make myself feel better by posting negatives. It just does not work for me. Even if the msm is negative, it is something that we are all aware of, and nothing under the sun seems to help get the negative monkey's off our backs. Obama's crowd will forgive him till the cows come home. We, or most of us felt the same way about Bill Clinton after his escapade in the oval office. Although I hated what he did like the devil, I still tried to justify it as "What the hell, it was only sex". I feel that way about Hillary, she can do no wrong in my book. I don't enjoy going to various newspaper web sites and posting comments. I find most of them are pro Obama filled with the crudest form of hatred and misinformation, and after I post my comments, I don't really feel better, because I know I haven't changed any persons mind about who they will vote for. The only people who can change minds are the candidates themselves through negative misspeaks as we witnessed the past couple of days. I personally enjoy more positive stuff. You can't just post anything under the sun on the official Hillary site. Most people do comment about enjoying the uplifting benefits from the positive comments. This is one of the most personal elections for me in all my years. I want Hillary to win beyond most anything I've ever wanted. I think she will win. Whether we can get her all the way to the White House might be another story, but at least it will be the first step.

[RachachaSharon]

AND Carter is getting senile. The Israelis don't want too much to do with him since he's playing great statesman (who couldn't win a second term) with Hamas. I'm hoping Gore is too smart to get involved.

While we're at it, why didn't the powers that be put these primaries closer together so that a decision could be made by this time of year rather than get their shorts in a knot and deprive people of their right to vote.

[Patsy]

Fox just quoted Carter as saying that whover has the delagate lead at the end should get the SD vote.

He's still sore because they had to implement SDs because of him. That's OK.

He can hole up with his Hamas buddies and build them some houses.

[lucky-ann]

who cares about carter and gore? if they actually think they had the power to force hillary clinton out of the race they really overestimate their role in the party...the only one in a position to do it (given his standing and his power in the party) would be bill clinton...well, somehow I doubt he'll do that:p

[Area504]

DO NOT LET JIMMY CARTER AND AL GORE CHOOSE OUR NOMINEE FOR US!!

WE DON'T ANOINT OUR LEADERS, WE ELECT THEM. EVERYONE HASN'T VOTED, AND SOME WHO HAVE ARE NOT YET COUNTED!!

GOT THAT, JIMMY AND AL?:mad:

[Charlie Brown]

who cares about carter and gore? if they actually think they had the power to force hillary clinton out of the race they really overestimate their role in the party...the only one in a position to do it (given his standing and his power in the party) would be bill clinton...well, somehow I doubt he'll do that:p

and she may even tell Bill to go Home...LOL!

[joeysky18]

Fox now report romour. We have a tevee version of the Globe. How low can MSM go?

Who care! As if those 2 have any power to tell Hillary to drop out.

I don't think even her dad in his grave will be able to convince Hillary to drop out. She will stop running only when we stop supporting her.

[ALL4HILLARY]

Carter implies he will because his state did and his family are all for BO however, he is not saying until the convention... and GORE says nothing hoping he will step up and refute this inaccuaracy because he said he wouldn't do this...


Israeli Leaders Snub Carter
http://newsmax.com/insidecover/carter_mideast/2008/04/13/87629.html

[Carolyn]

Fox now report romour. We have a tevee version of the Globe. How low can MSM go?

Who care! As if those 2 have any power to tell Hillary to drop out.

I don't think even her dad in his grave will be able to convince Hillary to drop out. She will stop running only when we stop supporting her.

Maybe they'll report the Larry Sinclair rumor, too? ;)

[Smart cookie]

I am tempted to quote way too many posts in this thread.

1. Gore always speaks out when people put words in his mouth. If he said he is staying out of this then he will reiterate that.

2. Carter is an earlier form of Obama. Little known, pushed through by media as likeable and disasterous 1 term president. Who cares who he endorses?

3. The Dem. party isn't DONE. Listen to the everyday people answering questions to reporters. They are excited. When in history has there been this much interest in PRIMARIES? Even if the media somehow ushers BO through as the nominee we can simply write in Hillary and move on. The DNC will learn a valuable lesson and hopefully learn from their horrid mistakes.

4. It is fine to keep bugging me about making phone calls. I know that those emails are sent in mass and you can't pick and choose who to delete. I am glad they are being sent as we are all adults and can click "delete" without getting our feathers ruffled. I get daily emails to contribute and I am equally glad they are being sent.

5. The harder they push Hillary to get out the deeper many people will dig their heels in to support her. I have friends that could have voted either way and chose Hillary mainly because the media was really pissing them off. Not the best reason but a vote is a vote.

There is room here for varying opinions. That is a difference we need to stress that sets us apart from the BO dominated sites.

[cowymom]

as handsome and intelligent as gore is, i still love him, and i guess it will be better for him to stay neutral until the very end. as for carter he can endorse obama all he wants, he's got 100% of my support to do that while meeting with hamas, al queda, sudanese government, bin laden and many more. this is if and only if this rumor is true

[hillary1]

Murray here it comes the new report is being announced... Al Gore and Carter... Barack is hurting now they are pitting Al Gore against ClintonS it is disgusting.. by the way Carter is too busy with Hamas right now don't you think?
email FOX bad press here too....

ANOTHER LOSER, I FIND IT PUZZLING THAT TWO PULIZER PRIZE WINNERS, CARTER AND GORE WERE ABLE TO SPEAK OR DO SOMETHING THAT IS, WAS IN THE INTEREST OF MANKIND, BUT, I AM FLAGGASTED THAT DURING THEIR REIN IN OFFICE THEY DID "ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, NOTHING" FOR THE PEOPLE OF THE U.S.

HIGHEST INTEREST AND INFLATION RATES EVER POSTED IN THIS COUNTRY BY CARTER, AS WELL AS THE FIASCO IN IRAN, WHICH HE HAD TO DEPEND ON A REPUBLICAN TO BAIL HIM OUT ON, AS FOR GORE, WHAT DID HE DO TOWARDS HEALTH CARE, OR EDUCATION, HE WAS IN OFFICE FOR EIGHT YEARS, HE DID NOTHING, NOW HE TALKS ABOUT MELTING ICEBERGS, AND THE WORLD IS SUPPOSE TO COME TO A HALT, THAT IS IF HE KNOWS WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT AT ALL

TWO MORE LOSERS, IF GORE WANTED TO HELP THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY, THEN THROW YOUR HAT IN THE RING MR.GORE, AND WORK FOR THE PEOPLE, STOP ENDORSING THOSE WHO WILL LICK THE BOOTS OF ANY AND EVERYONE THAT THROWS A DOLLAR HIS WAY

YOU CARE ABOUT YOURSELF CARTER AND GORE, NOT THIS COUNTRY, BECAUSE I HAVE NOT SEEN IT FROM EITHER ONE OF YOU, SO STAY ON YOUR PEANUT FARM CARTER, AND GORE, GO FIND ANOTHER MELTING ICEBERG AND LEAVE THIS COUNTRY TO PEOPLE LIKE THE CLINTONS WHO HAVE HELPED MANY AND CONTINUE TO DO SO

[Peppermint Patty]

Most democratic women like Al Gore and wanted him as President. If he endorses Obama, this will hurt him in many ways.
And I have respected Carter but lately maybe he just need to retire.

It won't happen; this is total propaganda!!!

:eek: I will be SHOCKED into becoming a Republican if Gore were to suddenly come out and endorse that liar NObama! I have such respect for Gore. I met him and Tipper at a private event for her photos 2 years ago and got my pics taken with both of them. I told him he's been MY POTUS all this time despite what happened. I could never believe this man again if he turned to NObama. I would be hurt and betrayed at all he believes in.

That said, I firmly believe this is a planted story to once again deflect NOBama's foot-in-mouth disease over his bitter remark. Explanations aren't working so it's time to plant a lie and see if that will distract people. :rolleyes:

[FlaDem]

Carter should just concentrate on Habitat for Humanity. His elder statesman role is as atrocious as his preidency. And Gore, although, as a Floridian 2000 still hurts, should concentrate his efforts on reducing Global Warming.

[Bacio83]

What confuses me though is this story seems to sound like two bullies from the Dem party and shows that BO is a bully as well. I don't see how this can end well for the BO campaign. It's one of the dumbest ideas by them if it is indeed coming from their campaign.

Way to make HRC's case for her. LOL Carter said to be one of the worst pres and Gore couldn't even take Clinton's endorsement and beat George W... uhhmmm.