View Full Version : Where are our blogs?
RAFREE
03-03-2008, 04:21 PM
I got a 404 error earlier and now there is no "Start a blog" in the action center on Hillary's site???
Jayling
03-03-2008, 04:27 PM
aye, something went kablooey about a half hour ago. All the Connect/Blogs & Groups aren't working, and you can't get to them from the main page either, those links are gone that pointed to them.
Maybe they're rebuilding the database or something. I sure hope it's up soon. Can't believe this happened on the eve of Super Tuesday II. Folks need one another now, and many people over there may not know about this website yet.
aargh!
RAFREE
03-03-2008, 04:31 PM
I think this is VERY suspicious!!
I hope the data base is backed up. hmmmm. This is bizarre because normally on a site like that they would say they were doing maintenance if that were the case. If it's a hack then there would be no notice.
Qulin
03-03-2008, 04:33 PM
I wonder what is going on. Freaked me out, lol.
RAFREE
03-03-2008, 04:38 PM
The "Hillary Speaks For Me" is gone from her frontpage too!!!!!!!!
Something is rotten here. They wouldn't take that link down???
Qulin
03-03-2008, 04:39 PM
Now I am really freaking.
RAFREE
03-03-2008, 04:42 PM
Okay, I'm calling campaign headquarters. brb.
RAFREE
03-03-2008, 04:50 PM
The girl I spoke with knew nothing about it. They need a telephone number for the TECHS.
I know this. I administer a large official website, if we are doing maintenance we always have a message up there so people will know it.
Also, there would be NO NEED for them to remove that "Hillary Speaks For Me" button off the main page if they were doing maintenance on the blog section of the site.
I am going to look for a tech number now. :eek:
Jayling
03-03-2008, 04:53 PM
Thanks for checking into this -- the anxiety and suspense is something we don't need right now!
Jayling
Yeah, that was wierd - the blog section doesn't even show up anymore!:confused:
RAFREE
03-03-2008, 04:57 PM
There is NO way that "Hillary Speaks For Me" button would be purposely removed. They sister site was thrilled to have been added on to her front page so they would not have asked to be taken off at all.
So I believe we have been hacked! ALL the blogs gone, and the blog button and the sister site too?? All the things that allow people to converse and to promote Hillary are gone???
Qulin
03-03-2008, 04:59 PM
This is not sounding good. Thanks for checking on this for us.
Jayling
03-03-2008, 05:01 PM
You know, as this election continues and Hillary Wins The Nomination -- we need for them to either set-up an official IPB Board, or at least link to this one from the main page.
The Blog type of atmosphere just wasn't enough. We need to communicate in real-time, not get lost in the shuffle of speaking over one another in a rush to be on the Recent list for a few minutes. That just wasn't working.
Forums are much better at communicating. An IPB Board license only costs around $100, and they can skin the background to look just like her main page. Sure hope they think about this. The internet is a powerful tool they need to focus on a little bit more (my opinion).
Jayling
I hate to be a pessimist...but look what the lack of moderation led to.
ETA: I hope they get on it ASAP! It's the eve of a crucial day!
Jayling
03-03-2008, 05:06 PM
aye. Fair-minded folks are needed in an environment like that and this, or else it just spirals down into nastiness.
I hope someone puts a bug in their ear about getting a Board license, skinning it, and getting it out to us.
Jayling
RAFREE
03-03-2008, 05:07 PM
My guess was that all along they could not spare the people from the campaign to moderate those blogs. There simply wasn't enough people power to do it all.
Mods are volunteers...they relied on automatic filters and reporting, and from the way the reports took so long to get acted on I could tell they just didn't have the people.
The site either could have gone with NO blog section OR go with a skeleton staff to monitor it. They chose to allow the blog section.
It was the best of a iffy situation. Had the Obama trolls not showed up it would have been okay.
The thing is that there would be a way to tell who hacked the site! Just look at the server logs and even if they hid the original ip addresses you can STILL find out where they originated if you know how to do it.
OHHHHH!! Let me IN THERE! I am having a fit to get at that server and catch whoever was last on the site.
The only other logical explanation is that some really, really not very bright person took that button off the front page AND took the blogs down too....that would not bode well for his or her future in IT.
I don't think that's what happened though since the timing is so suspect. And there is no way they would take off that Hillary Speaks For Me button to work on the blog portion of the site right now, the day before the primaries.
Patsy
03-03-2008, 05:26 PM
Went back to look at an email I got from a group on the website and called the number and then sent an email to Live World who is in charge of the site. I'm posting the number and email so we can all call and write. Someone is supposed "to get back to me" according to their vm.
408-871-5200
mwilliams@liveworld.com
Hope this helps. We need this up and running.
RAFREE
03-03-2008, 05:43 PM
Thank you Kitty!!
The Blog type of atmosphere just wasn't enough. We need to communicate in real-time, not get lost in the shuffle of speaking over one another in a rush to be on the Recent list for a few minutes. That just wasn't working. Forums are much better at communicating.
I agree 100%. The individual blog system and sub-groups is not the most efficient way to bring people together into a collective! I was surprised there wasn't an official forum so I established one myself!
RAFREE
03-03-2008, 06:37 PM
We should put a link to this forum in the comments section of Hillary's front pages!
We should put a link to this forum in the comments section of Hillary's front pages!
GREAT IDEA! Especially since tonight people can't access the blog system!
We should put a link to this forum in the comments section of Hillary's front pages!
Could try putting the link on the comments section of the latest blog. I managed to submit one comment - the others didn't appear?
http://blog.hillaryclinton.com/blog/main/2008/03/03/182440#view_comments
Don't know what criteria they use for moderating/approving comments...
Patsy
03-03-2008, 09:36 PM
I've called and emailed and nothing. Anybody know anything?
I've called and emailed and nothing. Anybody know anything?
I wonder if the streaming of the Town Hall had anything to do with it?
Maybe they wanted people to focus on the video? Or maybe it was a web traffic issue?
Not sure...
RAFREE
03-03-2008, 09:41 PM
Maybe, they might have felt the Town Hall was more important and that the traffic on the blogs would gum things up...still taking down the "Hillary Speaks For Me" link??? Not GOOD!!
Maybe, they might have felt the Town Hall was more important and that the traffic on the blogs would gum things up...
If this was the case it would have been better to let people know in advance what was going to happen. Let's hope they come back soon.
Renee in Florida
03-03-2008, 09:54 PM
Hey guys,
Wish the blog was on tonight?
Dont know what is going on but glad to see some of my friends here.
Hillary will win TEXAS and OHIO tomorrow. Its gonna happen!!!:)
RAFREE
03-03-2008, 10:01 PM
Hey Renee!! I'm glad you found us!
Hey Renee!! I'm glad you found us!
I'm glad she did too!
Hillary will win TEXAS and OHIO tomorrow. Its gonna happen!!!:)
I am quietly confident of this. People should never underestimate HRC - they do so at their own risk! She is a fighter!
Jayling
03-03-2008, 10:16 PM
Horrible weather in store for us up in Ohio tomorrow -- it's kind of worrying because we need the older voters to come out.
The news stations from Cleveland to Warren are reporting ice storms. geez! Give me snow but not ice!!
aargh...
YAY! Renee's in the house!!!!!!
RAFREE
03-03-2008, 10:22 PM
Horrible weather in store for us up in Ohio tomorrow -- it's kind of worrying because we need the older voters to come out.
The news stations from Cleveland to Warren are reporting ice storms. geez! Give me snow but not ice!!
aargh...
Oiy!! We NEED Ohio!! Hopefully, we can get some calls out there to have people drive and pick up older voters...go early!! Really there ought to be a way to account for this sort of thing. The night of the last super Tuesday we had deadly Tornadoes!!
They darn well better get out and salt those roads!! LOL!
Brooke
03-03-2008, 10:23 PM
Horrible weather in store for us up in Ohio tomorrow -- it's kind of worrying because we need the older voters to come out.
The news stations from Cleveland to Warren are reporting ice storms. geez! Give me snow but not ice!!
aargh...
Great..that weather's probably headed here afterwards.:mad:
Robin Orlowski
03-03-2008, 10:32 PM
EVERY body is scheduling everything in Texas for me to do these two days. So I thought I was imagining things when I could not find my blog--and the groups.
It all redirects to the townhall. Which yes, is important. But it would be interesting to see various Clinton campaign communities promoting it, particularly for people who are from/currently Texas.
I doubt, especially given how the mainstream media typically has been handling this campaign, that they would even cover the town hall.
I doubt, especially given how the mainstream media typically has been handling this campaign, that they would even cover the town hall.
I read on Facebook that it was also streamed on CNN's website. Anyone see it there? CNN owes Hillary a lot of favors (after their very BAD behavior in recent weeks) so maybe they did stream it...
SwiftFox
03-03-2008, 10:46 PM
I managed to submit one comment - the others didn't appear?
Don't know what criteria they use for moderating/approving comments...
You know, I submitted numerous comments to BlogHillary, and not one single one ever showed up. It was very frustrating, so that's why I went searching for another place and was very glad to find this forum. Like Murray, I was surprised there was no official Hillary forum -- it's such a better format for discussion and exchanging information. Well, anyway, Murray, thanks again for establishing this one!
Robin Orlowski
03-03-2008, 10:56 PM
What fire finally was lit under them. Do they gasp, have a concience?
RAFREE
03-03-2008, 11:19 PM
No Robin, I don't trust them, they will truncate the comments tomorrow and spin it negative! Not one single really great moment will make the news. He's had PLENTY of "shine" moments and she's had exactly ZERO that they could help it with. EVEN her closing comment during the debate that was so good, they spun negative.
I'm not holding my breathe with C.N.N....it will be to late after tomorrow if they don't vet obama TODAY.
What fire finally was lit under them. Do they gasp, have a concience?
Well, so many complaints have been made to CNN about their warped coverage that maybe commercial concerns are finally getting the better of them! Viewers = dollars. Less viewers = less dollars. They don't have a conscience, but they do have commercial needs so we must take advantage of those! It has most certainly harmed them to be so negative towards Clinton and so lovey-dovey with Obama.
You know, I submitted numerous comments to BlogHillary, and not one single one ever showed up. It was very frustrating, so that's why I went searching for another place and was very glad to find this forum. Like Murray, I was surprised there was no official Hillary forum -- it's such a better format for discussion and exchanging information. Well, anyway, Murray, thanks again for establishing this one!
They seem to show up some time after being posted. I realize they are moderated but the order in which comments show up, I don't really understand. I like instant gratification - I don't like waiting for comments to be approved as it thwarts discussion! Blogs and comment features are good for attracting broad opinion about a topic, but they aren't the best way to engage in discussion with others. So here we are for the latter! :)
Carla
03-04-2008, 04:23 AM
I talked to Mark Williams today over at live world, and he said that the campaign had made the decision not to moderate the site continually (it probably cost more money) and that is why we had all of the trolls.
One of us e-mailed Mark their ignore list, he e-mailed me back and was concerned b/c there were so many trolls, and he couldn't tell who was a real troll and who was a Hillary supporter b/c of the names, and he couldn't get rid of all everyone on the list just b/c of the list.
Next thing you, the site was down. Mark said that he thinks they are doing maintainence on the site. My guess is that Liveworld and the campaign freaked out when they saw the amount of abuse going on by the trolls in the blog, and didn't have a choice but to shut it down. I'll e-mail Mark tomorrow to see if he knows when it is going back up. It was getting out of control and they need to implent rules and regulations for the blog site.
I blogged on Obama's site on Sunday, and I was kicked on in 5 minutes flat. That is what we need.
Carla.
RAFREE
03-04-2008, 04:40 AM
Good Lord, Carla I will do it for FREE! I have been an admin for George Harrison OFFICIAL site and Paul Mccartney for FiVE years. They need an admin panel so you just block the ip address and email in the panel. It's easy enough if you have a mod sitting there everyday who knows what is what.
I haven't been able to talk to them directly but, if you do again and IF they have mod log in for the blogs then PLEASE tell him to contact me at namastetoyou@gmail.com
OR go directly to GeorgeHarrison.com into the forums and pm the administrator. That's me.
I know what I"m doing and it won't cost them a red cent. If they are game then I am too!
ourhouse
03-04-2008, 04:56 AM
I think this is VERY suspicious!!
I hope the data base is backed up. hmmmm. This is bizarre because normally on a site like that they would say they were doing maintenance if that were the case. If it's a hack then there would be no notice.
this is ourhouse
I was making calls and was cut off, I tried to blog and coudn't enter my account. donno if you even getting this. we have to keep our own files in case there is a contest buy all means!
It goes to show you how well and comfee we are with our first amendment we don't even give it a second thought until something like this happens.
we should react to this in masses and show that that this is in no way is going to intimidate us. this is not about Hillary anymore. this campaign should be declared null and void if the "We the people" is not adhered to We are definitily going the wrong direction a U turn Is this what we really want as change. what is this some kind of payback time? is this the platform?
ourhouse
03-04-2008, 04:59 AM
this is ourhouse
I was making calls and was cut off, I tried to blog and coudn't enter my account. donno if you even getting this. we have to keep our own files in case there is a contest buy all means!
It goes to show you how well and comfee we are with our first amendment we don't even give it a second thought until something like this happens.
we should react to this in masses and show that that this is in no way is going to intimidate us. this is not about Hillary anymore. this campaign should be declared null and void if the "We the people" is not adhered to We are definitily going the wrong direction a U turn Is this what we really want as change. what is this some kind of payback time? is this the platform?
:mad::mad:
RAFREE
03-04-2008, 05:01 AM
The site is probably being worked on but, they should have put up a "under construction" notice.
I wish they would let me help and bring on a volunteer mod to help. Good lord, if they had someone there every day with one helper then they wouldn't need to freak like this about a list of trolls.
Rest assured we will have no such problems in this forum as Big Admin will be stepping in and DELETING/BANNING any Obamamaniacs ASAP! I have already cleaned out a few from this forum! :cool:
Good Lord, Carla I will do it for FREE! I have been an admin for George Harrison OFFICIAL site and Paul Mccartney for FiVE years. They need an admin panel so you just block the ip address and email in the panel. It's easy enough if you have a mod sitting there everyday who knows what is what.
I haven't been able to talk to them directly but, if you do again and IF they have mod log in for the blogs then PLEASE tell him to contact me at namastetoyou@gmail.com
OR go directly to GeorgeHarrison.com into the forums and pm the administrator. That's me.
I know what I"m doing and it won't cost them a red cent. If they are game then I am too!
Please do offer your services, they need moderators over there. I was shocked at how much anti-hillary garbage there was there. That's what I like about this forum - direct control over removing filth!
And if you are a moderator over there, you can direct fans here as well. It would be a win-win situation!!
RAFREE
03-04-2008, 05:47 AM
YES! Because if people have very important posts they need a great place to back them up! I just lost a ton of things I wanted to email today when that site went down. I won't let that happen again.
emmyCA
03-07-2008, 05:54 PM
Admin and Murray, please becareful that this site might be hacked, please change your admin password constantly and backup forum database daily. This site should be up 7/24. We cannot afford to lose connection from all Hillary fans again..........For sure Obama trolls are watching us and reading this forum!!!!
Thanks, thanks, thanks!!!
emmyCA
03-08-2008, 02:08 AM
NOw I am suspicious. My posts under nickname "TracyDuong" are not displayed there any more, my donation information was gone too. (Total donation information was gone). I created a new username "EmmyCA" 2 days ago. When I use my new username, my posts get displayed there. I think something wrong. The site got hacked ....I am so disaapointed. However, I am glad to find all of you here
B positive
03-08-2008, 02:26 AM
Everyone's blogs are gone. My login info is still there though but my total donation amount is incorrect.
HILLARY wants every voice to be heard!
P.S. The day it happened ... when I clicked on BLOG I got a screen message saying "we have recently made changes to our site"
and to use the new options set up.
Admin and Murray, please becareful that this site might be hacked, please change your admin password constantly and backup forum database daily. This site should be up 7/24. We cannot afford to lose connection from all Hillary fans again..........For sure Obama trolls are watching us and reading this forum!!!!
Thanks, thanks, thanks!!!
Admin = Murray ;)
Everything is secure with multiple daily backups. So even in a worst case scenario, everything would be back up very quickly!
Patsy
03-08-2008, 02:48 AM
Admin = Murray ;)
Everything is secure with multiple daily backups.
Thank you Murray because this is so much better than the "official" one was and you're a champ for putting it together.
For sure Obama trolls are watching us and reading this forum!!!!
Murray waves and says hello to Obama trolls as they read this post! :D
skc1976
03-08-2008, 02:55 AM
Murray waves and says hello to Obama trolls as they read this post! :D
Sean wants to wave, too, at the Obama trolls. I hope they enjoy seeing that there are REAL people that support a REAL candidate with SOLUTIONS and not a copy machine! :D
Sorry, had a tangent...forgive me :)
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