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skc1976
03-05-2008, 02:24 PM
Hey everyone!
It's never too early to keep abreast of the states that are to come. I was over at RCP today and saw where they now have North Carolina listed with their polls. In some very ENCOURAGING news, Hillary has closed the gap on Obama in North Carolina.
Poll - Date - Sample - Clinton - Obama - Spread
PPP (D) | 03/03 - 03/03 | 508 LV | 43 | 47 | Obama +4.0
Elon College | 02/18 - 02/21 | 307 LV | 31 |45 | Obama +14.0
SurveyUSA | 02/11 - 02/11 | 580 LV |40 | 50 | Obama +10.0
As you can see, in the latest poll, it's become a close race. This means that North Carolina might actually be a state to fight for. I'm hoping so because I live about an hour north of the border and I'm ready to head down and do what I can!
So, I wanted to start the NC thread and let's get a jump on Obama and secure this state for Clinton. Virginia may have went the wrong way, but maybe our southern neighbor won't make the same mistake!
Patsy
03-05-2008, 02:27 PM
I can tell you we're working our butts off in the Democratic Counties here in NC which is a predominantly Red State. The universities here are not so "liberal" as people might think with the exception of Duke. Everyone I've spoken with is very much a Hillary Supporter and I'm working hard on making the kids here at UNCW look very deeply into Obama. I know it's working and I think Hillary will take this State. The second largest in delegates to PA left to vote.
skc1976
03-05-2008, 02:31 PM
I can tell you we're working our butts off in the Democratic Counties here in NC which is a predominantly Red State. The universities here are not so "liberal" as people might think with the exception of Duke. Everyone I've spoken with is very much a Hillary Supporter and I'm working hard on making the kids here at UNCW look very deeply into Obama. I know it's working and I think Hillary will take this State. The second largest in delegates to PA left to vote.
I know it is, and it would be a nice prize to add to her collection too. If you look at the states she's won, she has a distinct line from coast to almost coast. NC would give her that coast to coast link. Just something cool.
I know that NC is GOP country, just as Virginia is. Good to know that the universities aren't as "liberal" there. Maybe that will hurt Obama some. One thing to point out to students is that he's known as the most liberal Senator in the Senate. That might make people rethink him some if they have conservative traits.
If you hear of anything going on in the Greensboro/Triad area, let me know. I'm eager to help out!
That's a big improvement in the polls for Hillary there!
skc1976
03-05-2008, 02:41 PM
That's a big improvement in the polls for Hillary there!
I know...it's very encouraging. I think if we could get an Edwards endorsement, after he and his family have had time to heal from their loss, it would be a big boost for her there.
Btw, thanks for adding in the pledged delegates to the title line. I couldn't find the number for them. :)
johnny51981
03-05-2008, 04:48 PM
I hope last nights results (the unfair TX Caucus not withstanding) in 2 mainly Republican States (TX and OH) will show the Dems in North Carolina that Hillary really is the one for them.
With the Pennsylvania win (that is a clear "DUH"), that should provide a little bir more momentum before North Carolina and John Edwards would help GREATLY!!!
Again, AS GOES OHIO....SO GOES THE NATION! That should speak loudly....and directed towards Senator Edwards.
skc1976
03-05-2008, 07:48 PM
Well, Ohio is the demographic that Senator Edwards was going to do best in. Given how overwhelmingly they voted for Clinton over Obama, maybe we should send another letter to him in the next couple of days, after the grieving is over for him and his family, and let him know how Ohioans really favored the classes he was fighting for.
B positive
03-09-2008, 07:38 PM
What he does could make all the difference ... not just to NC voters but to SuperDels nationwide.... Will he speak before then? Trippe said today that "Edwards would be a good VP choice for Obama" was that an advertisement?
Hillary is the Dem's only chance to beat McCain!
emmyCA
03-09-2008, 07:54 PM
I was able to convince my sister, her husband and his family in NC to vote for Hillary. They favored O-blah-ma a month ago, but yesterday she called me and told me family in NC decided to vote for Hillary as they started to see a lot of flaw and misterious things from O-flaw-ma...I am happy to hear that....Forsure, Hillary will win NC..and general election...In order to help this happens, she needs our help to donate, blog, call, support her during this tough time.
To all undecide voters, any misunderstanding about Hillary or something you need to clarify about her, please give her a chance to explain to you first before you turn your back on her. Please vote smart as you have only 1 vote, don't misuse it....Thanks!!!
Jayling
03-09-2008, 09:32 PM
I hope last nights results (the unfair TX Caucus not withstanding) in 2 mainly Republican States (TX and OH) ...
Oh no no no, Ohio is not mainly a Republican state - not at all. Ohio voted for Clinton in both 1992 and 1996, went red in 2000 for Bush, and then with the voting problems in 2004 (think ala Florida), it went red for Bush again, but if it had been a fair election, I believe Kerry would've had it in '04.
So I think Hillary has an edge on any candidate in Ohio. If it's Hillary vs McCain -- it'll probably be close, but I do think she'd win it. If the nominee is Obama vs Mac -- Mac would win it by a landslide.
Jayling (lifelong Ohioan - 52 years)
:)
pearson
03-10-2008, 08:51 AM
Regardless of polls, I think Clinton should campaign aggressively in every state. You never know where you might pull an upset, and in any case, it is important to narrow the gap of any loss (no "blow-outs").
Do not concede NC nor Indiana. And why isn't Hillary advertising on TV in Mississippi?
skc1976
03-10-2008, 05:38 PM
I don't think she'll concede either NC or IN. I have a feeling that after PA, she will get very aggressive in both states. What we need to do is lay out the groundwork there now and then when PA is over, it will make it easier for her in those couple of weeks between the two showdowns.
bee1972
03-12-2008, 09:59 AM
Where does John Edwards stand on support for Hillary?? Is there a way that he could endorse Hillary before NC, maybe even before PA??
freespirit
03-12-2008, 10:28 AM
Well, Ohio is the demographic that Senator Edwards was going to do best in. Given how overwhelmingly they voted for Clinton over Obama, maybe we should send another letter to him in the next couple of days, after the grieving is over for him and his family, and let him know how Ohioans really favored the classes he was fighting for.
I wonder if Edward's feels any alliegance to Kerry - if that's why he has not endorsed Hillary yet. I read earlier in this process that she had visited him twice and BO once. At that time, the report was that he liked Clinton's views, but that Elizabeth did not like the fact that she had gotten some support from special interest groups. At that time, there had been little disclosure about the special interest groups backing BO. If there is any way to craft a single letter, signed by as many of her supporters as we can get, I think that might be effective.
Viktoriya
03-12-2008, 03:26 PM
It is just frustrating. Did anybody contact HQ with request to set HQ at North Carolina?
She is down in the polls there and need every vote in every state!
neutralplayer
03-12-2008, 09:16 PM
I wonder if Edward's feels any alliegance to Kerry - if that's why he has not endorsed Hillary yet. I read earlier in this process that she had visited him twice and BO once. At that time, the report was that he liked Clinton's views, but that Elizabeth did not like the fact that she had gotten some support from special interest groups. At that time, there had been little disclosure about the special interest groups backing BO. If there is any way to craft a single letter, signed by as many of her supporters as we can get, I think that might be effective.
I don't think this is the case.
From what I've heard the two never had a real liking for each other and blame each other for their 2004 loss.
Viktoriya
03-13-2008, 02:42 PM
I don't think she'll concede either NC or IN. I have a feeling that after PA, she will get very aggressive in both states. What we need to do is lay out the groundwork there now and then when PA is over, it will make it easier for her in those couple of weeks between the two showdowns.
I totally agree the more ground work wil be done the better.
hiptulip
03-18-2008, 01:59 AM
I can tell you we're working our butts off in the Democratic Counties here in NC which is a predominantly Red State. The universities here are not so "liberal" as people might think with the exception of Duke. Everyone I've spoken with is very much a Hillary Supporter and I'm working hard on making the kids here at UNCW look very deeply into Obama. I know it's working and I think Hillary will take this State. The second largest in delegates to PA left to vote.
There still is plenty of time for Same Day Voter Registration from Apri17-May 3rd before students have gone home/schools out by primary date May 6th. Let’s get some people on the ground to register those students!
The Clinton Campaign today 3/17 announced that Averell "Ace" Smith will serve as North Carolina State Director. Smith Led Clinton Victories in California, Texas.
Still no NC phone numbers to call from HRC website…..
Highlights about NC primary below for those who will be working the phones.
http://www.ncdp.org/2008+Democratic+Primary+North+Carolina
The North Carolina Democratic Primary is May 6th, 2008.
The last day to register to vote on election day: Apr. 11
Absentee Voting: Mar. 17 - Apr. 29
One Stop Absentee Voting: Apr. 17 - May 3
Note: You can register to vote and cast your absentee ballot at the same time during the April 17th to May 3rd period at a One Stop Voting location.
About Same Day Voter Registration (SDVR)
* All US citizens who will be 18 and have lived in the country for at least 30 days by the general election date are eligible to vote using SDVR.
* Same Day Registration only takes place during the early voting period, 19 to 3 days prior to the election, not on the day of the election.
How
* Go to an early voting site in your county. (to find an early voting site, call toll free at 866-522-4723 or visit www.sboe.state.nc.us)
* Fill out the registration form
* Show the offical an accepted form of Identification (listed below)
* VOTE!
In North Carolina, unaffiliated voters are permitted to vote in the Democratic primary.
However, if an unaffiliated voter chooses to vote in the Democratic primary, he or she cannot vote in a Republican runoff (or second primary). Similarly, an unaffiliated voter who votes in a Republican primary cannot vote in a Democratic runoff.
TRAIL BLAZE ME IN
03-19-2008, 10:36 PM
Local news saying, the last two weeks for Obama with controversial concerns has reflected lack of response! Also,rumor has it that John Edwards may sign on with Clinton. However his advisers want him to stay neutral ? Stay tuned!He just might make the announcement! Local news today showed clips of Obama but not entire speech that I'm aware of and was on all channels.We need interview #1 with Anderson Cooper and speech of Obama 3/18/08 to compare questionable integrity of Obama. Fox news was on that today and picked up on it! Wish we had a video comparison. See ya! Greensboro security reporting all clear on the confusion and it was a scheduling issue.We need to find a better place for accommodating Hillary Clinton and we need more room! Charlotte had room for 3000? We have other places that will allow more people! Stop the streets and set up stage downtown Greensboro?Baseball stadium,coliseum?Bill Clinton at City Club in Charlotte reported ,April 4 th. Also,sign up and make sure registration to vote is straight at Democratic Head Quarters,301 West Market St. or old court house Greensboro! Over and Out Captain! Channel 14 will make announcements about registrations on what,when and where! Keep calling them!
mjno7777
03-23-2008, 09:17 PM
Hillary must win PA AND NC by 70%. We have alot of work to do in North Carolina, it cannot go to OBAMA.
TRAIL BLAZE ME IN
03-24-2008, 12:23 PM
"The Democrat was surging but now revelations about the men who helped shape him are putting voters off." CNN last night on Black Liberation Theology and asking if you think it is hurting ? Indicating Obama polls down significance eividence enough to answser that question? Clinton live on CNN and speaking on economics in Penn. Clinton working to restore confidence with solutions! Finally,we get her speaking!The wait and see approach of the current administration isn't working and Clinton finds solutions to economic crisis! For back-ground checking, go back to Chicago Sun Times on Clinton's economic plan and in this news article, Obama is alleged having copied Clinton's economic plan. What? More purposes of parody? Obama alleged plagiarist? In the news article McCain supported Clinton and it was mentioned that if Obama had been in college,he'd have been kicked out of school for his alleged plagiarist on Clinton's economic plan. More food for thought to draw your own conclusion on who to vote for in NC!!
TRAIL BLAZE ME IN
03-26-2008, 11:28 PM
FIND POLITICAL SCIENCE BUILDINGS AND COLLEGE DEMOCRATS!!!Also,found something interesting from Obama's speech,now aired on CNN. Obama says in NC that the TRINITY CHURCH OF GOD is 99% white? WHAT?
neutralplayer
03-27-2008, 12:02 PM
I think she needs to put more focus on NC.... it appears she already has PA in the bag so I don't think she needs to be there almost "every" day of the week.
Dawnelle
03-27-2008, 04:07 PM
I am going to our first county meet up tonight in Asheville.
My 83 yr old MOM and I.
Unfortunately I am disabled so am not worth much as a foot soldier for HILLARY but I've been blogging for HILLARY for MONTHS NOW!!! And I plan to get a bumper sticker and talk to my friends.
We do what we can right?
I am watching Hillary right now on CNN live blog. First she was in Raleigh and now she's coming shortly in to Fayetteville.......
I love watching her. She is FABULOUS! And I HOPE the NEXT CIC!!
Brooke
03-28-2008, 11:14 PM
Is NC an open primary? If so, that could work well for Hillary if she gets Republicans and Independents to vote for her.
hills
04-03-2008, 01:24 PM
Some delegates who are uncommitted
Peter Visclosky (IN)
Joe Donnelly (IN)
Brad Ellsworth (IN)
Baron Hill (IN
Cricket22
04-04-2008, 09:00 PM
I hope that all Hillary supporters across the state are talking to anyone they see to encourage HRC to get a close look so they will vote for her. A number of people in a Hillary meeting in Asheville noted that they had good responses when they wear their Hillary button to meetings and restaurants, etc. Try it! Go for Hillary--the only excellent candidate out there.
sgkrishnan
04-05-2008, 08:36 PM
In North Carolina, you must be registered as a Democrat or Unaffiliated in order to vote in the Democratic primary. The deadline is April 11th.
Hillary supporters, please do whatever you can do to help. Even register Republicans who would rather see Hillary fight against McCain instead of seeing Obama.
We need to win NC.
abbywilson9
04-13-2008, 11:04 AM
April 13, 2008
North Carolina proudly casts it 115 delegates and its super delegates to the next President of the United States Hillary Rodham Clinton.
Abby:)
RayinAR
04-13-2008, 11:06 AM
When do the college kids go home in NC? Anyone know?
hobbitt
04-17-2008, 11:57 AM
I can tell you we're working our butts off in the Democratic Counties here in NC which is a predominantly Red State. The universities here are not so "liberal" as people might think with the exception of Duke. Everyone I've spoken with is very much a Hillary Supporter and I'm working hard on making the kids here at UNCW look very deeply into Obama. I know it's working and I think Hillary will take this State. The second largest in delegates to PA left to vote.
Hope!
I have a list of email addresses for editors and news reporters in NC.
Anyone wanting a copy, send me a Personal Message. mention NC and I will provide it.
Early voting started today in NC.
We have got to get the word out!
And please do write to the s NC superdelegates:
Reps. Bob Etheridge, Mike McIntyre, Heath Shuler and Brad Miller, remain publicly uncommitted.
Kbentleyis
04-19-2008, 02:51 AM
Dear Sean:
We may want to tell NC people that Obama supporters told her to drop out of the race because the last 10 states wouldn't make a difference. How arrogant! Another words... Obama's group, including the DNC believe PA, NC, IN, etc. people's votes are just unimportant to the election process.
Everyone, in every one of these 10 states should get off their butts, on their feet, and hit the ground running to vote for Hillary Clinton on their primary day.
Kbentleyis
04-19-2008, 03:07 AM
Can you give me telephone numbers or addresses to these people in Indiana. I live in NW Indiana a little south of Michigan City, 8 miles north of Valporaiso.
Wales for Hillary
04-23-2008, 03:34 AM
Ok guys its now "The Day After". Time to refocus on whats ahead. I'm going to work hard on the forums efforts in NC (and if someone from Indiana wants to do the same that would be great). NC is a huge uphill battle, but a win here would CRIPPLE BO. I'm going to keep this this thread updated daily, and on the main bored so please visit it, and any help would be tremendously appreciated. What we need to focus on.
1) Don't believe the MSM when they say John Edwards won't endorse. Listening to him on Colbert the other night, and with the progressively active voice coming from his wife, Elizabeth, I think he is definately in play. We need him to be our Ed Rendell for NC, and he brings with him 18 delegates and probably 4-6 pts in NC. Please take time to write POSITVE emails to him and his wife specifically mentioning the Poverty and Health Care Issues. They can be reached at
http://www.johnedwards.com/about/contact/form/
You will get an auto response, but I am told they still get the messages.
You can also try at press@johnedwards.com
You can also contact John Edwards for President at:
Phone: (919) 636-3131
Fax: (919) 967-3644
Mailing Address:
410 Market Street
Suite 400
Chapel Hill, NC 27516
2) We need to work on the college vote. On the next post is a long list of the major uni newspapers. Hillary does get quite a few of these, and we will need them to post postive Hill stories throughout the NC unis. Theres a lot, but please take time to respond to them asking for an endorsment, and attach relevant articles. Envionment and College Tuition are great topics that Hill is strong on. They should be smart enough to see through BO.
3)We need to fight Axelrods media manipulation efforts. He consistently gets (or pays off) the major newspapers, and TV stations. Thursday I will podt links to all of them, and we can work on these similarly to our efforts on the student papers. These definately need to put the questions to Obamas character.
4) The toughest demographic to break through will be the AA vote. I'll put some thought into it, but I would love some ideas how we can at least ry to narrow the gap in this area. Maya help, and Edwards (fingers crossed) would help, but it was 92%!!! in PA. It needs to be cracked.
5)Don't forget in any of the above to metion "Imafraidtodebategate"
NC will be a challenge, but it can be done. I have two other things to ask of you before I'm done that need to be done on a daily basis.
1) Keep on the DNC about MI and FL. Dean is corrupt and taking Axelrods money and he needs to be reminded about this DAILY....877-336-7200
2)If you know any Hill supporters or even Anti-Obama people, get them to joim this site. Its a numbers game, so lets make Murray work harder:p, and get all the help on here. All these Hill supporters wasting their time on DU, CNN, etc... could be put to work here.
It was a great night folks, but its time to look forward. Thanks for the help and any other NC ideas or connections would be greatly appreciated.
Wales for Hillary
04-23-2008, 03:38 AM
Please take a little while to work on these Unis. BO consistently takes this demographic, and we need to cut into it. If you don’t have long (although I recommend cut and pasting the same message to each) hit Duke, the UNCs, NC State, and Wake. Cheers guys
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Appalachian State University
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Davidson
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Duke
http://www.dukechronicle.com/contactus/
East Carolina
http://www.theeastcarolinian.com/home/lettertotheeditor/
Gardner Webb
http://www.gwupilot.com/home/lettertotheeditor/
Guilford College
http://www.guilfordian.com/home/lettertotheeditor/
UNC
http://www.dailytarheel.com/feedback/
UNC @ Wilmington
http://www.theseahawk.org/home/lettertotheeditor/
Western Carolina
http://www.westerncarolinian.com/home/lettertotheeditor/
Winston Salem
http://www.thenewsargus.com/home/lettertotheeditor/
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NC State
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Wake Forest
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emmyCA
04-23-2008, 03:54 AM
Please keep writting to Edward, sending letters, greeting cards, flowers, candy to him, his wife and his kids....
underpaidnurse
04-23-2008, 04:19 AM
UNC Chapel Hill has Heels for Hillary a huge group very involved. Rev Dyson came to Raleigh with the president of NOW to speak to a few supporters, she would be a great one to have come back to speak with the AA population. Signs are another great way to get some visibility. Unfortunately, all thesigns I've planted have disappeared but the Raleigh HQ's has a huge supply. We are also trying to get people together for canvassing. I will be posting when materials will be ready, tenative date was for today. I'll have to call and see.
foreigner4hillary
04-23-2008, 05:24 AM
Does anyone have information on Deval Patrick's impact on Massachusetts?
Look, BO is almost identical to him. Little or no experience, running on change. From what I've gathered, Massachusetts isn't too fond of Deval Patrick now. Heck, judging by the percentages:
Hillary 56%, BO 41%, Edwards 2%. I dare say they aren't too fond of "change" either.
lynfreedom
04-23-2008, 05:26 AM
Ok guys its now "The Day After". Time to refocus on whats ahead. I'm going to work hard on the forums efforts in NC (and if someone from Indiana wants to do the same that would be great). NC is a huge uphill battle, but a win here would CRIPPLE BO. I'm going to keep this this thread updated daily, and on the main bored so please visit it, and any help would be tremendously appreciated. What we need to focus on.
Thanks for your hard work and all the info for the media. On to bed right now but will do some before my dr. apmt tomorrow. I agree that we can do this and the debate being cancelled should be a big deal. Really, he needs to campaign...gee, isn't a debate reaching more people?
Thank you. :)
ZforHill
04-23-2008, 06:06 AM
It's going to be near impossible for Hillary to win NC, even with Edwards endorsement. Women stood up for Hillary in New Hampshire, and African Americans will stand up for Obama in N. Carolina.
That being said, she can severely dent his lead.
I personally believe, and I know she gets flak for this, that she has to bring out her emotional side. That's where Obama fails, he can't get emotional, he doesn't have the voice for it. :p You can already see that this is the strategy she has, by having "Conversations" instead of campaign pitches. Her NCAskMe ads, which feature Sen. Clinton talking to N. Carolinians, her conversation with Maya Angelou, and her bringing Chelsea and Mom with her.
This doesn't necessarily have to target the entire AA demographic, just the women in their community.
Other than that, it's a wait and see deal. I've read in places that Hillary has been seeming really confident, and might have something planned. If that is true, expect to see it in the next 2 weeks. Something that changes everything. Maybe an endorsement? Edwards? Who knows.
WV4Hillary
04-23-2008, 12:41 PM
It's true..AA's make up like 30% of the primary. It's unfair and stupid that they vote on skin color alone...but that's that. NC is basically a copy of Virginia.
underpaidnurse
04-23-2008, 12:50 PM
Don't give up!!!!!! we can not allow him to run away with this state. We have to galvanize everyone we can, so that he does not blow Hillary out of the water. yes, there is a huge AA vote here, but there are also a lot of blue collar, gun loving religious people here as well. We can make a difference, we can limit the amount of popular vote and delegates he receives. I firmly believe we have a chance to limit his numbers to single digits.
Bad Kitty
04-23-2008, 12:59 PM
O.K. This is going to just be a shot in the dark but I'll write it anyway. I do think there are alot of that 30% of AA who are going to vote against her b/c of race but there's got to be a small percentage that is also on her side. I think it would be good to hear why they(we) choose to be on Hillary's side and then try to rally more.
I know I voted for her because of health care, affordable college and the economy and I'm sure there are other people who feel the same way but have a fear of being shamed.
I think in some way we should figure out a way for people to say, "I'm Black and I'm Proud and I'm voting for Hillary!"
foreigner4hillary
04-23-2008, 01:01 PM
It's true..AA's make up like 30% of the primary. It's unfair and stupid that they vote on skin color alone...but that's that. NC is basically a copy of Virginia.
Indeed, it sounds pretty damn racist if you ask me but your PC media doesn't have the balls to say it.
Patsy
04-23-2008, 01:02 PM
It's going to be near impossible for Hillary to win NC, even with Edwards endorsement. Women stood up for Hillary in New Hampshire, and African Americans will stand up for Obama in N. Carolina.
That being said, she can severely dent his lead.
Our objective is to work as though we are bringing NC home for Hillary. There is much support here in the State and every day new signs pop up and more offices are opening.
A good Lawyer prepares every case as though it is going to litigation although the chances of such are slim.
We MUST prepare as though NC will be a win for HRC.
The Campaign has the most experienced staff on the ground here. Ace Smith from CA and an entire team of Volunteers from TX have been here for weeks.
I am co-chairing more than 5 Fund Raisers alone in every corner of the State.
We need volunteers who are in NC to be on the ground working the phone banks and GOTV. I know we have many on this board who are doing just that. And we have many who are working the phones from every state for this.
NC is a State that HRC can win. We must just work a little bit harder to see it happen.
So, let's play to win, not to close the gap. If we should fall short of our goal, we will know we have done everything we can to ensure a win and not just an attempt to close the margin. That did not work so well for Obama in PA last night.
We MUST play to win and nothing less is acceptable.
Anything and everything we do is important. I am on the ground here now and we are in better shape than anyone cares to report.
SO LET'S DO THIS!!!!!
Bad Kitty
04-23-2008, 01:04 PM
I also think Hillary or Hillary supporters should try to get on some of the radio stations (all or any) and local news there. I know when they were in TX I heard him alot on the radio. It annoyed me and I turned it but I hardly heard Hillary or her supporters on the radio. This would be good because alot of young people spend there whole day listening to the radio.
She could pick a day to do her own live radio spots by calling into each one all on a day. If she is too busy, at least get some younger supporters to hit the younger stations, some country fans for the country stations, rock, etc.......
I know it's a lot of money to actually do the commercials but just to call in and say, "Hillary Rocks!" should be free. :)
cowymom
04-23-2008, 01:06 PM
Before i start i want to say congrats to hillary and all of us who stood besides her. We did it again. i've never made calls but this time i did, and am proud of that.
Ok, we've now popped the champaigns and toasted a shot and a beer for this victory but we've got to get back to work. As you've noticed the obamabots, CNN, MSNBC, NBC, NYT, howard dean, Nancy P. and the rest are stepping up and launching new attacks. So what is our next strategy? i've got the following suggestions.
-load howard dean's email box and answering machine.
- Stay more connected with associations like N.O.W and Tennessee Guerilla Women.
- Attract more young voters ( 40 and under ). by signing them up in our websites or other pro-hillary sites, email facebook, myspace, hi5 and so on. i think we can have a shot with them.
- keep blogging and emailing the media or other bloggers (we can even have another protest). Make phone calls to those undecided voters.
- Contact SD.
- report harrassments by obama supporters to the clinton camp.
- donate to hillary clinton campaign. we really need money if we want to stay in this race.
Anyone with brighter suggestions? we need more ideas to keep going.Go hilllllaaaaaaaarrrrrryyyyy!!! YOU ROCK!!!!!!
I need a leader for president not a rock star...
my favorite quote in hillary's speech "see, you can be anything you want"
PAangelRN
04-23-2008, 01:14 PM
I posted this on another thread but thought it might be more appropriate here. I was given this yesterday at the NE Philadelphia Hillary HQ.
Be a volunteer for Hillary!
Make Calls/Travel to North Carolina and Indiana
Contact: carlaforhillary@gmail.com
Sandy in PA
04-23-2008, 01:15 PM
O.K. This is going to just be a shot in the dark but I'll write it anyway. I do think there are alot of that 30% of AA who are going to vote against her b/c of race but there's got to be a small percentage that is also on her side. I think it would be good to hear why they(we) choose to be on Hillary's side and then try to rally more.
YES! I was stunned at the number of AAs that I met in the last month who support Hillary, women AND men, both from PA and the sheer number that came in from other states to help. They are out there.
Karen Keefe
04-23-2008, 01:47 PM
all across NC and state her case. Mayor Nutter and Gov. Rendell of PA did just that--took Hillary to the opponent's territory and let folks see who she is. Hillary faced the PA newspaper that first opposed her, then heard her, then endorsed her because she walked into the lion's den. Since BO backed out of the NC debate, Hillary must make her own "debate" with all BO's followers and turn a good number of them into HRC supporters. Let's show courage, Team Hillary, and walk the opponent's territory with a calm, dignified manner--and several partners and a cell phone camera for safety!
WV4Hillary
04-23-2008, 01:50 PM
..Earlier I said it's impossible for her to win..but I wanna make 3 points..
1. Hillary has proven to us that nothing is impossible for her when we all work together.
2. Obama knew he wouldn't win PA...but he worked hard, and so did his supporters. We will do the same in NC...and if we can keep it in single digits (which will be VERY hard) then I would call that a victory for us. We must focus on the Raleigh area. That's her big problem. We will work like crazy!
3. This is our first chance at focusing on an Obama state. When you think about it...his states always seem to come in rapid fire succession and we have no chance to campaign. He wins on demographics alone. Hillary's states, on the other hand, always seem to have like a 3 week (Texas and Ohio) to 2 month (Pennsylvania) window in front of them..in which Obama is able to campaign EXCLUSIVELY in that state. For the first time, we have a window (small - 2 weeks, but a window) to fight in one of HIS states. They always say Hillary starts with a lead in a state, and when Obama campaigns it goes down. Let's prove the same thing is true the other way around!
K.Wayne
04-23-2008, 02:21 PM
It's true..AA's make up like 30% of the primary. It's unfair and stupid that they vote on skin color alone...but that's that. NC is basically a copy of Virginia.
I think what Hillary, Bill, Chelsea & Co. should do in this case is
go right for them. Sit them down and talk to them. This Presidential Race
is more than skin color, gender, speeches, and such. This is about solutions.
And while Hope and Change are both well and good, what will they matter
if you vote for somone who has no proven record in being able to bring this about. Hillary is very much the one who can bring the kind of change we can believe in. She has paid her dues and put in the work. She is the one who as reached accorss the aisle and gotten legislation passed. She is the one who can really pull and will fight to bring the US back up!
As someone pointed out to me, Obama did nothing to get the "black vote". They simply gave it to him. Therefore, go to them and really talk. Appeal to their needing and wanting for change. And ask them what kind of change they want. Change that we all can believe in or change simply base on speeches and what many of them simply may see as some symbolic gesture(a black manin the White House)?
Gypsy
04-23-2008, 02:35 PM
I think in some way we should figure out a way for people to say, "I'm Black and I'm Proud and I'm voting for Hillary!"[/QUOTE]
You know I feel bad when we say the percentage of AA are voting for Obama. We are forgetting about the AA's who are voting for Hillary. The pundits are spinning it that way for white women too. In fact Todd from MSNBC are claiming that we white women are getting her to win. There's not enough of us to have that happen. I think it would be very hard not to give in to the pressue. Mayor Nutter didn't, and he also must have been under pressure. I'm not voting gender, and I am sure that there are AA's voting for Obama who really do think he is the best candidate. Just know we stand with all the AA's Clinton supporters because it's has to be difficult. Strong women of all nationalities and races stand together. I think the punidiots should stop reducing all of us into some type of convenient demographic pool explanations.
Peace & Victory
foreigner4hillary
04-23-2008, 04:11 PM
O.K. This is going to just be a shot in the dark but I'll write it anyway. I do think there are alot of that 30% of AA who are going to vote against her b/c of race but there's got to be a small percentage that is also on her side. I think it would be good to hear why they(we) choose to be on Hillary's side and then try to rally more.
I know I voted for her because of health care, affordable college and the economy and I'm sure there are other people who feel the same way but have a fear of being shamed.
I think in some way we should figure out a way for people to say, "I'm Black and I'm Proud and I'm voting for Hillary!"
Thank you Starr. As I've stated in a different post, I also believe that alot of AAs are just afraid of being shamed.
I'm not going to say I understand what you're going through because I don't, but I can guess and I applaud your sense of righteousness to do what is right despite the odds.
I dare say some AAs will switch if they are courted, but I doubt Hillary's campaign will do anything of the sort during the nomination. So it remains up to us, to attempt the impossible.
The impossible we do straight away, but miracles take a little longer...;)
Bad Kitty
04-23-2008, 04:37 PM
Thank you Starr. As I've stated in a different post, I also believe that alot of AAs are just afraid of being shamed.
I'm not going to say I understand what you're going through because I don't, but I can guess and I applaud your sense of righteousness to do what is right despite the odds.
I dare say some AAs will switch if they are courted, but I doubt Hillary's campaign will do anything of the sort during the nomination. So it remains up to us, to attempt the impossible.
The impossible we do straight away, but miracles take a little longer...;)
:)
freethinker
04-23-2008, 04:56 PM
Our objective is to work as though we are bringing NC home for Hillary. There is much support here in the State and every day new signs pop up and more offices are opening.
A good Lawyer prepares every case as though it is going to litigation although the chances of such are slim.
We MUST prepare as though NC will be a win for HRC.
The Campaign has the most experienced staff on the ground here. Ace Smith from CA and an entire team of Volunteers from TX have been here for weeks.
I am co-chairing more than 5 Fund Raisers alone in every corner of the State.
We need volunteers who are in NC to be on the ground working the phone banks and GOTV. I know we have many on this board who are doing just that. And we have many who are working the phones from every state for this.
NC is a State that HRC can win. We must just work a little bit harder to see it happen.
So, let's play to win, not to close the gap. If we should fall short of our goal, we will know we have done everything we can to ensure a win and not just an attempt to close the margin. That did not work so well for Obama in PA last night.
We MUST play to win and nothing less is acceptable.
Anything and everything we do is important. I am on the ground here now and we are in better shape than anyone cares to report.
SO LET'S DO THIS!!!!!
Kitty, you are so right! We must move mountans for our girl!
:D
samkm
04-23-2008, 05:00 PM
I am proud to support Hillary because she has stood up for what matters to all people.
RESPECT and DIGNITY for all.
=============================
Wellesley College
1969 Student Commencement Speech
Hillary D. Rodham
May 31, 1969 http://www.wellesley.edu/PublicAffairs/Commencement/1969/053169hillary.html
Ruth M. Adams, ninth president of Wellesley College, introduced Hillary D. Rodham, '69, at the 91st commencement exercises, as follows:
In addition to inviting Senator Brooke to speak to them this morning, the Class of '69 has expressed a desire to speak to them and for them at this morning's commencement. There was no debate so far as I could ascertain as to who their spokesman was to be -- Miss Hillary Rodham. Member of this graduating class, she is a major in political science and a candidate for the degree with honors. In four years she has combined academic ability with active service to the College, her junior year having served as a Vil Junior, and then as a member of Senate and during the past year as President of College Government and presiding officer of College Senate. She is also cheerful, good humored, good company, and a good friend to all of us and it is a great pleasure to present to this audience Miss Hillary Rodham.
Remarks of Hillary D. Rodham, President of the Wellesley College Government Association and member of the Class of 1969, on the occasion of Wellesley's 91st Commencement, May 31, 1969:
I am very glad that Miss Adams made it clear that what I am speaking for today is all of us -- the 400 of us -- and I find myself in a familiar position, that of reacting, something that our generation has been doing for quite a while now. We're not in the positions yet of leadership and power, but we do have that indispensable task of criticizing and constructive protest and I find myself reacting just briefly to some of the things that Senator Brooke said. This has to be brief because I do have a little speech to give. Part of the problem with empathy with professed goals is that empathy doesn't do us anything. We've had lots of empathy; we've had lots of sympathy, but we feel that for too long our leaders have used politics as the art of making what appears to be impossible, possible. What does it mean to hear that 13.3% of the people in this country are below the poverty line? That's a percentage. We're not interested in social reconstruction; it's human reconstruction. How can we talk about percentages and trends? The complexities are not lost in our analyses, but perhaps they're just put into what we consider a more human and eventually a more progressive perspective. The question about possible and impossible was one that we brought with us to Wellesley four years ago. We arrived not yet knowing what was not possible. Consequently, we expected a lot. Our attitudes are easily understood having grown up, having come to consciousness in the first five years of this decade -- years dominated by men with dreams, men in the civil rights movement, the Peace Corps, the space program -- so we arrived at Wellesley and we found, as all of us have found, that there was a gap between expectation and realities. But it wasn't a discouraging gap and it didn't turn us into cynical, bitter old women at the age of 18. It just inspired us to do something about that gap. What we did is often difficult for some people to understand. They ask us quite often: "Why, if you're dissatisfied, do you stay in a place?" Well, if you didn't care a lot about it you wouldn't stay. It's almost as though my mother used to say, "I'll always love you but there are times when I certainly won't like you." Our love for this place, this particular place, Wellesley College, coupled with our freedom from the burden of an inauthentic reality allowed us to question basic assumptions underlying our education. Before the days of the media orchestrated demonstrations, we had our own gathering over in Founder's parking lot. We protested against the rigid academic distribution requirement. We worked for a pass-fail system. We worked for a say in some of the process of academic decision making. And luckily we were in a place where, when we questioned the meaning of a liberal arts education there were people with enough imagination to respond to that questioning. So we have made progress. We have achieved some of the things that initially saw as lacking in that gap between expectation and reality. Our concerns were not, of course, solely academic as all of us know. We worried about inside Wellesley questions of admissions, the kind of people that should be coming to Wellesley, the process for getting them here. We questioned about what responsibility we should have both for our lives as individuals and for our lives as members of a collective group.
Coupled with our concerns for the Wellesley inside here in the community were our concerns for what happened beyond Hathaway House. We wanted to know what relationship Wellesley was going to have to the outer world. We were lucky in that one of the first things Miss Adams did was to set up a cross-registration with MIT because everyone knows that education just can't have any parochial bounds any more. One of the other things that we did was the Upward Bound program. There are so many other things that we could talk about; so many attempts, at least the way we saw it, to pull ourselves into the world outside. And I think we've succeeded. There will be an Upward Bound program, just for one example, on the campus this summer.
Many of the issues that I've mentioned -- those of sharing power and responsibility, those of assuming power and responsibility have been general concerns on campuses throughout the world. But underlying those concerns there is a theme, a theme which is so trite and so old because the words are so familiar. It talks about integrity and trust and respect. Words have a funny way of trapping our minds on the way to our tongues but there are necessary means even in this multi-media age for attempting to come to grasps with some of the inarticulate maybe even inarticulable things that we're feeling. We are, all of us, exploring a world that none of us even understands and attempting to create within that uncertainty. But there are some things we feel, feelings that our prevailing, acquisitive, and competitive corporate life, including tragically the universities, is not the way of life for us. We're searching for more immediate, ecstatic and penetrating mode of living. And so our questions, our questions about our institutions, about our colleges, about our churches, about our government continue. The questions about those institutions are familiar to all of us. We have seen heralded across the newspapers. Senator Brooke has suggested some of them this morning. But along with using these words -- integrity, trust, and respect -- in regard to institutions and leaders we're perhaps harshest with them in regard to ourselves.
Every protest, every dissent, whether it's an individual academic paper, Founder's parking lot demonstration, is unabashedly an attempt to forge an identity in this particular age. That attempt at forging for many of us over the past four years has meant coming to terms with our humanness. Within the context of a society that we perceive -- now we can talk about reality, and I would like to talk about reality sometime, authentic reality, inauthentic reality, and what we have to accept of what we see -- but our perception of it is that it hovers often between the possibility of disaster and the potentiality for imaginatively responding to men's needs. There's a very strange conservative strain that goes through a lot of New Left, collegiate protests that I find very intriguing because it harkens back to a lot of the old virtues, to the fulfillment of original ideas. And it's also a very unique American experience. It's such a great adventure. If the experiment in human living doesn't work in this country, in this age, it's not going to work anywhere.
But we also know that to be educated, the goal of it must be human liberation. A liberation enabling each of us to fulfill our capacity so as to be free to create within and around ourselves. To be educated to freedom must be evidenced in action, and here again is where we ask ourselves, as we have asked our parents and our teachers, questions about integrity, trust, and respect. Those three words mean different things to all of us. Some of the things they can mean, for instance: Integrity, the courage to be whole, to try to mold an entire person in this particular context, living in relation to one another in the full poetry of existence. If the only tool we have ultimately to use is our lives, so we use it in the way we can by choosing a way to live that will demonstrate the way we feel and the way we know. Integrity -- a man like Paul Santmire. Trust. This is one word that when I asked the class at our rehearsal what it was they wanted me to say for them, everyone came up to me and said "Talk about trust, talk about the lack of trust both for us and the way we feel about others. Talk about the trust bust." What can you say about it? What can you say about a feeling that permeates a generation and that perhaps is not even understood by those who are distrusted? All they can do is keep trying again and again and again. There's that wonderful line in East Coker by Eliot about there's only the trying, again and again and again; to win again what we've lost before.
And then respect. There's that mutuality of respect between people where you don't see people as percentage points. Where you don't manipulate people. Where you're not interested in social engineering for people. The struggle for an integrated life existing in an atmosphere of communal trust and respect is one with desperately important political and social consequences. And the word "consequences" of course catapults us into the future. One of the most tragic things that happened yesterday, a beautiful day, was that I was talking to woman who said that she wouldn't want to be me for anything in the world. She wouldn't want to live today and look ahead to what it is she sees because she's afraid. Fear is always with us but we just don't have time for it. Not now.
There are two people that I would like to thank before concluding. That's Ellie Acheson, who is the spearhead for this, and also Nancy Scheibner who wrote this poem which is the last thing that I would like to read:
My entrance into the world of so-called "social problems"
Must be with quiet laughter, or not at all.
The hollow men of anger and bitterness
The bountiful ladies of righteous degradation
All must be left to a bygone age.
And the purpose of history is to provide a receptacle
For all those myths and oddments
Which oddly we have acquired
And from which we would become unburdened
To create a newer world
To transform the future into the present.
We have no need of false revolutions
In a world where categories tend to tyrannize our minds
And hang our wills up on narrow pegs.
It is well at every given moment to seek the limits in our lives.
And once those limits are understood
To understand that limitations no longer exist.
Earth could be fair. And you and I must be free
Not to save the world in a glorious crusade
Not to kill ourselves with a nameless gnawing pain
But to practice with all the skill of our being
The art of making possible.
That was in 1969 and she has stood for RESPECT for all. She added DIGNITY to underscore dignified treatment of all people in her speeches in Beijing and in Univ of Arkansas.
I had a rare opportunity to touch hand of Mrs. Indira Gandhi in a crowded rally in 1969 and had thought here is a lady who is the greatest hero of our time.. I stand duly corrected. Hillary Rodham was the greatest hero of our times even on that day.
Wales for Hillary
04-23-2008, 05:20 PM
1) Don't believe the MSM when they say John Edwards won't endorse. Listening to him on Colbert the other night, and with the progressively active voice coming from his wife, Elizabeth, I think he is definately in play. We need him to be our Ed Rendell for NC, and he brings with him 18 delegates and probably 4-6 pts in NC. Please take time to write POSITVE emails to him and his wife specifically mentioning the Poverty and Health Care Issues. They can be reached at
http://www.johnedwards.com/about/contact/form/
You will get an auto response, but I am told they still get the messages.
You can also try at press@johnedwards.com
You can also contact John Edwards for President at:
Phone: (919) 636-3131
Fax: (919) 967-3644
Mailing Address:
410 Market Street
Suite 400
Chapel Hill, NC 27516
JMS825
04-23-2008, 06:12 PM
I just wrote
Mr Edwards
I first want to thank you for all the work you have done for America. I voted for you in 2004 and as strongly as I felt for you in 04 I feel for Sen Clinton this year. She has echoed your devotions. She knows how us people suffer from poverty, lack of health care, forclosure, and so much more. I greatly appreciate your lovely wife speaking out positively about Sen Clintons health care plan and how it is far better than any other plan out there and saying how Obama's plan does not go far enough. As for the economy, wise people such as Jim Cramer has said Sen has the biggest grasp on the situation and the best plan for solving the problems we face. I know you have fought so hard to give voices to those who are forgotten and I feel with all my heart Sen Clinton does the same. I am sure both campaigns have courted you for your support but as a voter who loves America I truly hope you endorse Sen Clinton. I know you want 3 jet skis and if I could afford them I would buy them for you in a heart beat, that is how much Sen Clinton means to me. If you do not endorse I understand but I do hope you vote for what is best for America and all the people you have fought for. May god watch over you, your lovely wife, and all of America. Thank you and God Bless you.
John
Now gonna call
JMS825
04-23-2008, 06:13 PM
Darn mail box is full
mkreyns
04-23-2008, 06:30 PM
I also think Hillary or Hillary supporters should try to get on some of the radio stations (all or any) and local news there. I know when they were in TX I heard him alot on the radio. It annoyed me and I turned it but I hardly heard Hillary or her supporters on the radio. This would be good because alot of young people spend there whole day listening to the radio.
She could pick a day to do her own live radio spots by calling into each one all on a day. If she is too busy, at least get some younger supporters to hit the younger stations, some country fans for the country stations, rock, etc.......
I know it's a lot of money to actually do the commercials but just to call in and say, "Hillary Rocks!" should be free. :)
What about Hillary supporters targeting talk show radio there. It would reach more people at once than a phone call. I'm sure there are talk radio shows that ask people to call in and comment on an issue.
musgrrl
04-23-2008, 06:51 PM
I've been thinking about this for a while and here's why I think Edwards will endorse Hillary:
1. Hillary announced on Ellen's show that she is going to create an initiative to find a cure for breast cancer during her presidency. Elizabeth Edwards is fighting for her life because of breast cancer. BO hasn't made any claim to do anything like this. Hell, he hasn't made any effort to fight any disease. Hillary has a whole list. I think Elizabeth will encourage Sen. Edward to endorse her.
2. Hillary has shown that the very people that John Edwards was fighting for (working poor) are voting for her anyway. She is very popular among these people and John Edwards can't ignore that.
These are just my thoughts.
Disfranchised
04-23-2008, 07:24 PM
Those who already reached maximum contribution or are not elgible to contribute can send Yard signs, Stickers, buttons,... to official campaign offices directly.
www.HillaryGear.com (purchase on this site is not considered a federal contribution to Hillary Clinton for President and is not subjected to the $2300 limit or the federal rules)
www.demstore.com (click on Hillary 08) (this site has better deals)
Both sites offer volume prices.
If you are buying supplies for North Carolina, you can send them to the HQ Office:
North Carolina, State Headquarters
516 N. West Street
Raleigh, NC 27603
Phone: 919-828-0034
Attn: Amanda Piter.
Go Hillary!!!
supra5677
04-24-2008, 01:05 AM
I just checked the demographics of North Carolina.. 75% white, 22% black, and 6 percent hispanic..going to be hard.. need a huge disparity of the white vote similar to that of the black vote.. we'd better hit those black churches..
however with that 10 point lead in pennsylvania if the demographics were the same as pennsylvania that would put us even... Any black population larger than 13% will make it hard for us..
ZforHill
04-24-2008, 01:42 AM
I just checked the demographics of North Carolina.. 75% white, 22% black, and 6 percent hispanic..going to be hard.. need a huge disparity of the white vote similar to that of the black vote.. we'd better hit those black churches..
however with that 10 point lead in pennsylvania if the demographics were the same as pennsylvania that would put us even... Any black population larger than 13% will make it hard for us..
The disparity in those numbers is going to be the devils advocate. I'm going to say some things now that's going to make me sick just by saying it. I agree with Obama in his speech on race that there are racial tensions (*goes off to brush teeth*). If there IS that much racial tension that Sen Obama says, expect the votes to be split across racial lines.
Everyone has said that Sen Obama needed to keep PA under 10 points, and they should also say the same of NC. If < 10 = victory for Obama in PA, then the same should be said about NC. If Sen Clinton can keep it under 10 in NC, she WINS!
Don't get me wrong, I enjoy real victories, where Sen Clinton pummels her opponents, but the same rules that applied for PA should apply for NC! If she can OVERTAKE Obama in NC, then everyone needs to SHUT UP, BACK UP, and THINK. But even if she doesnt, I would gladly accept a 6% spread.
Back to strategy: I personally think that Hillary should get UNDER exposure. Everyone knows that BO overspends her 3-1, and because of this, her grassroots thrives, and will thrive in NC. Nothing brings people together than helping someone in need. If every commercial break includes an Obama ad, then everyone will back up and ask themselves, "What's wrong here? Where's Hillary?" "It's unfair that he's buying this election." It'll be a great incentive to go out and support her, because the only endorsement that matters are the ones from the voters themselves.
Soren
04-24-2008, 02:21 AM
I can't wait to go back and read that entire commencement speech. Thank you for posting that. it should be used for the young. A young actress should read it and YouTube it.
and we must not say or think that African Americans are voting for Barack Obama because of race. They are voting for Barack Obama because they like him. He spoke to them. Now we must get Hillary to speak to them too because she has more to say. African Americans want solutions to their problems. What we need to do is carefully and clearly delineate the PLANS - not the records (people won't beleive that) - but the PLANS and how they will help.
Precisely how Hillary's health plan is better for everyone, particularly women
Precisely how Hillary sees all the taxes - income, FICA, cap gains, gas, and windfall profits (since he seemed to get it mixed up, she could clarify)
etc.
DROP the race stuff. Speak to people like people.
Speak like Hillary did at Wellsley.
People in PA voted for Hillary because they liked her. They didn't vote for her because of race or against the other guy because of race. Let's BREAK DOWN the divisions by race in NC. Speak to people as people. That's always been Hillary's way anyway.
Soren
04-24-2008, 02:32 AM
What a speech! Talk about a speech giver! We have a speech giver in Hillary.
where is Nancy Scheibner these days?
Wow - thank you for that speech. I see it is all over the internet, but I never would have thought to read it had you not posted it.
Lynne
04-24-2008, 02:35 AM
Remember, the church has a very influential role in the AA community. It would probably to helpful to enlist the support of the churches by approaching them as partners in delivering the message versus the perspective of the church as the receiver of the message.
Ask the church what we can do to help the church's Clinton supporters to get the message out. Are there any Clinton campaign field offices affiliated with any of the churches? I think that would be helpful. The church is an agent of change. Think about this- what has more influence in your decision-making? Getting information from sources you personaly know and trust or a politician who talks about what he thinks is important.
Bottom line of my rambling is to work with the churches as partners and not consumers.
Obiviously she's going to have a hard time gaining back black supporters (over 90% for BO). She has to continue to discuss the economy and how she'll bring back jobs that are important to NC. She also really needs to cut into some of BO support among the 18-34 age group, so that means really hammering in talks about college and how she'll improve on healthcare and social security. The war is also important. She really needs to come off as the "nice" Hillary that the people of NH flocked to, if she continues with the kind of speeches she has given on Monday and Tuesday night, she really should improve her standing. At all costs she needs to avoid any dicussion that can even be considered racially motivated. Oh and to attract Edwards supporters she needs to continue with the talks of ending poverty.
Just a few of what I think she really has to concentrate on, anyone else have any ideas.
Wales for Hillary
04-24-2008, 02:53 AM
and we must not say or think that African Americans are voting for Barack Obama because of race. They are voting for Barack Obama because they like him. He spoke to them. Now we must get Hillary to speak to them too because she has more to say. African Americans want solutions to their problems. What we need to do is carefully and clearly delineate the PLANS - not the records (people won't beleive that) - but the PLANS and how they will help.
Precisely how Hillary's health plan is better for everyone, particularly women
Precisely how Hillary sees all the taxes - income, FICA, cap gains, gas, and windfall profits (since he seemed to get it mixed up, she could clarify)
etc.
DROP the race stuff. Speak to people like people.
Soren,
I appreciate you taking the high road on this issue, and I wish that I could see eye to eye on this issue but I just can't. Barring Barack Obama's race speech, he has not spoken up for AA. Even in his books he spoke less about solving their issues and more about "black power". He didn't visit Memphis on MLK day (Hill and McCain did), he didn't accept the invitation to the annual NABJ convention (Hillaryproudly did), and he has numerous times rejected to endorse prominent black leaders in their attempts totake office(ask Mayor Nutter. On the other hand the Clintons have for years fought for AA rights to the point they were considered the first "balck couple" in the White House.
Look, unlike the DNC, I believe in the democratic process and every person has the right to vote for who they like...bar none. What I have been trying to ask in this thread is how we go about gaining some of that vote back for Hillary who for years have worked for their rights. We have 12 days to cut into a demographic that went 92-8 for Obama.
Its straight Maths. If that demographic follows that breakdown into NC, Hill will need to win the white vote 80-20. A tall order. If we can break than down to even 80-20 to BO, Hill will need to run 61-39 in the white vote, and we can win a HUGE victory in a state that is tailor made for BO. What I'm posing is how can we, this forum and grassroots, try and cut into that that gap. At this point I am less concerned about playing nice, and more concerned with how to get Hill the nomination.
ALL: I KNOW ITS LATE BUT PLEASE TAKE A FEW MINUTES TO FINISH EMAILING THE COLLEGES IN NC AND SEND EDWARDS A POLITE EMAIL.
Cheers guys
no_more_bush
04-24-2008, 03:05 AM
I don't think Hillary is going to put much effort into North Carolina, her website doesn't even offer the option to call anywhere in the state.. I wish we had 6 weeks to campaign in just NC, then it would be more similar to PA.
Patsy
04-24-2008, 03:21 AM
I don't think Hillary is going to put much effort into North Carolina, her website doesn't even offer the option to call anywhere in the state.. I wish we had 6 weeks to campaign in just NC, then it would be more similar to PA.
Actually her website does offer the call option for NC and we already have offices open across the State. Ace Smith is running the show here and he ran CA and TX. A team of volunteers from TX have been here for weeks now. HRC will be here tomorrow and the entire Clinton Family will be in NC.
I am co-chairing no less than 5 Fund Raisers for HRC across the State.
We are playing to WIN.
HRC, Bill and Chelsea have been in the State campaigning during this 6 weeks. The Campaign is conceding nothing. And, nor should we. Every day a new HQ seems to open and more people get on the ground because the suport is much greater than any poll will tell you.
The calls and the ground game are what we need.
Wales for Hillary
04-24-2008, 03:31 AM
Kitty,
Anything you need help with, or anything that you want me to work with on this thread just ask. I'm solely focused on NC, and am gonna keep this thread active and updated until we win on May 6th. Just let me know.
BTW...what do youthink our chances of Edwards are...realistically?
no_more_bush
04-24-2008, 03:34 AM
Actually her website does offer the call option for NC and we already have offices open across the State. Ace Smith is running the show here and he ran CA and TX. A team of volunteers from TX have been here for weeks now. HRC will be here tomorrow and the entire Clinton Family will be in NC.
I am co-chairing no less than 5 Fund Raisers for HRC across the State.
We are playing to WIN.
HRC, Bill and Chelsea have been in the State campaigning during this 6 weeks. The Campaign is conceding nothing. And, nor should we. Every day a new HQ seems to open and more people get on the ground because the suport is much greater than any poll will tell you.
The calls and the ground game are what we need.
Oh ok, well that makes me feel better. For some reason when I click the make calls button Indiana is my only option.
JMS825
04-24-2008, 03:34 AM
Kitty does the 12% gap seem realistic?
Bad Kitty
04-24-2008, 03:38 AM
Kitty and anyone else who may know, is there any job for an insomniac?
Wales for Hillary
04-24-2008, 03:51 AM
Kitty and anyone else who may know, is there any job for an insomniac?
Yes, please hit up the student papers listed on this thread. We need to get some endorsements before Axelrod pays them off.
JMS825
04-24-2008, 03:55 AM
Kitty and anyone else who may know, is there any job for an insomniac?
Write the media or papers. Call and leave messages to complaints to places like NYT, MSNBC, CBS, DNC and whoever else you have a beef with
Bad Kitty
04-24-2008, 03:59 AM
O.K. Thanks everybody. I'm on it.
JMS825
04-24-2008, 04:00 AM
O.K. Thanks everybody. I'm on it.
when I say write media and paper I mean to either show support for Hillary or to rebut BS stories they may have posted
Wales for Hillary
04-24-2008, 05:23 AM
I'm reposting this. Please take time today tosend positive comments to all of these papers. We need to break the student vote in NC. Cut and Paste is the way to go to save time. Cheers guys
WRITE THE EDITORS
Appalachian State University
http://theapp.appstate.edu/component...per/Itemid,50/
Davidson
http://www.thedavidsonian.com/home/lettertotheeditor/
Duke
http://www.dukechronicle.com/contactus/
East Carolina
http://www.theeastcarolinian.com/hom...ertotheeditor/
Gardner Webb
http://www.gwupilot.com/home/lettertotheeditor/
Guilford College
http://www.guilfordian.com/home/lettertotheeditor/
UNC
http://www.dailytarheel.com/feedback/
UNC @ Wilmington
http://www.theseahawk.org/home/lettertotheeditor/
Western Carolina
http://www.westerncarolinian.com/hom...ertotheeditor/
Winston Salem
http://www.thenewsargus.com/home/lettertotheeditor/
EMAILS
Belmont Abbey
newspaper@bac.edu
Campbell
BuildYourFuture@Campbell.edu
Elon
pendulum@elon.edu
UNC Charlotte
uteditor@uncc.edu
utmaned@uncc.edu
NC State
editor@technicianonline.com
viewpoint@technicianonline.com
Wake Forest
ogb@wfu.edu
I think in some way we should figure out a way for people to say, "I'm Black and I'm Proud and I'm voting for Hillary!"
I was thinking the same thing today. The best way to increase votes for Hillary amongst African-American people is to ask those that already support her to speak publicly about their reasons for doing so.
hobbitt
04-24-2008, 06:04 AM
Ok guys its now "The Day After". Time to refocus on whats ahead. I'm going to work hard on the forums efforts in NC (and if someone from Indiana wants to do the same that would be great). NC is a huge uphill battle, but a win here would CRIPPLE BO. I'm going to keep this this thread updated daily, and on the main bored so please visit it, and any help would be tremendously appreciated. What we need to focus on.
3)We need to fight Axelrods media manipulation efforts. He consistently gets (or pays off) the major newspapers, and TV stations.
5)Don't forget in any of the above to mention "Imafraidtodebategate"
NC will be a challenge, but it can be done.
Also, if writing a comparison message, the above-cited Debate Avoidance Dance and the Gun Control Gavotte along with a clever shuffle over to 'we are electing a President, not an emcee' or 'a President, not a new American Idol' will make for an interesting email.
If you are writing a positive message only about Clinton, choose a topic close to your heart and tell them why you are voting for Hillary.
(http://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/)
Or choose an audience (college newspaper or NC secondary school educators) and select a topic which would be meaningful to them. (e,g,
Pell grants, elimination of the FAFSA form)
http://www.hillaryclinton.com/news/speech/view/?id=3885
Or write the NC Winegrowers Association about what Clinton accomplished with the NY state winegrowers. Ditto applegrowers.
I have email addresses for NC news editors and reporters; send me a private message and I will send them to you.
(Also for Indiana, Oregon, Montana, national media, etc.).
Ohio mom
04-24-2008, 10:21 AM
I can tell you we're working our butts off in the Democratic Counties here in NC which is a predominantly Red State. The universities here are not so "liberal" as people might think with the exception of Duke. Everyone I've spoken with is very much a Hillary Supporter and I'm working hard on making the kids here at UNCW look very deeply into Obama. I know it's working and I think Hillary will take this State. The second largest in delegates to PA left to vote.
I heard on the news this morning that Hillary is conceding North Carolina because of the 30% AA population, and the money thing too!! Can anyone verify and how can we help her down there??? I think Edwards needs to step up now and endorse her and keep the campaign alive down there!!! I am unable to stay current on all of this right now, any positive feedback is greatly appreciated because that news really worries me!!!
hobbitt
04-24-2008, 12:32 PM
I heard on the news this morning that Hillary is conceding North Carolina because of the 30% AA population, and the money thing too!! Can anyone verify and how can we help her down there???
http://www.hillaryclinton.com/hq/northcarolina/
No one is conceding anything.
There are North Carolina threads all over this forum. With positive, concrete actions to take.
Call, write, blog, donate.
mjno7777
04-24-2008, 12:51 PM
75000 NC's already voted. We need to work now to get the rest. It has to be close!!!!
Remember we are mad as hell
http://youtube.com/watch?v=kcdnlNZg2iM
lynfreedom
04-24-2008, 02:01 PM
I agree. The scripts are for Indiana so that seem to be the calling focus. The GOP has negative ads runnng for Obama in NC so hopefully they will be fighting our battle.
I had read an article this morning that said there was 20% black population so that gives us 80% more to convince. It also said over 45,000 new black voter registrations have been done there since first of year.
So at this point, we can subtly fight for votes but less might be better here. Radio talk shows would not be bad as long as we stay with the positive and let people know about her, since people seem to be sick of the negative.
Here is a link for radio, etc. I have not checked all the links yet.
http://www.newslink.org/broad.html
The disparity in those numbers is going to be the devils advocate. I'm going to say some things now that's going to make me sick just by saying it. I agree with Obama in his speech on race that there are racial tensions (*goes off to brush teeth*). If there IS that much racial tension that Sen Obama says, expect the votes to be split across racial lines.
Everyone has said that Sen Obama needed to keep PA under 10 points, and they should also say the same of NC. If < 10 = victory for Obama in PA, then the same should be said about NC. If Sen Clinton can keep it under 10 in NC, she WINS!
Don't get me wrong, I enjoy real victories, where Sen Clinton pummels her opponents, but the same rules that applied for PA should apply for NC! If she can OVERTAKE Obama in NC, then everyone needs to SHUT UP, BACK UP, and THINK. But even if she doesnt, I would gladly accept a 6% spread.
Back to strategy: I personally think that Hillary should get UNDER exposure. Everyone knows that BO overspends her 3-1, and because of this, her grassroots thrives, and will thrive in NC. Nothing brings people together than helping someone in need. If every commercial break includes an Obama ad, then everyone will back up and ask themselves, "What's wrong here? Where's Hillary?" "It's unfair that he's buying this election." It'll be a great incentive to go out and support her, because the only endorsement that matters are the ones from the voters themselves.
ShyFire
04-24-2008, 05:08 PM
Ugh.. I just saw the breaking news that the NC GOP has decided NOT to run the ad. I have a suspicion that they caved under pressure from McCain.
It wasn't the most positive thing- but, it was a little something that could have spread the message of Obama's radical ties and views- too extreme for NC.
I wonder if the exposure it already rec'd in MSM was enough for it to go viral? It's still on youtube-
Wales for Hillary
04-24-2008, 06:58 PM
Ugh.. I just saw the breaking news that the NC GOP has decided NOT to run the ad. I have a suspicion that they caved under pressure from McCain.
It wasn't the most positive thing- but, it was a little something that could have spread the message of Obama's radical ties and views- too extreme for NC.
I wonder if the exposure it already rec'd in MSM was enough for it to go viral? It's still on youtube-
McCain got Punked.....NC GOP will continue to run the ad
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/04/24/mccain-camp-under-false-impression-that-nc-gop-obama-ad-was-killed/
PLEASE TAKE TIME TO EMAIL THE NC COLLEGES LISTED IN THIS THREAD IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY
darlamc
04-24-2008, 07:04 PM
Hi Kitty-
We are having a 'funraiser' for Hillary on Sunday April 27th from 3-6pm
We will be raising some money- and recruiting volunteers. Vaughan Penn will be the musical guest. I would love to meet you.
my blog www.politicalamnesia.blogspot.com
and the event posting at the StarNews
http://events.starnewsonline.com/carolina-beach-nc/events/show/82180213-seachange-for-hillary-featuring-vaughan-penn
Talves1950
04-24-2008, 07:38 PM
His on line ads are nauseating. We need to be diligent in blogging and posting comments.
http://www2.journalnow.com/opinion/
Angelica91
04-24-2008, 07:54 PM
hi!
sorry but last days I studied so much and I don't know last polls...!! but I knew Obama leads by 13 points. :(
Uff...can hillary win this primary??? My heart says YES WE WILL!
maximuss
04-25-2008, 08:20 PM
There still is plenty of time for Same Day Voter Registration from Apri17-May 3rd before students have gone home/schools out by primary date May 6th. Let’s get some people on the ground to register those students!
The Clinton Campaign today 3/17 announced that Averell "Ace" Smith will serve as North Carolina State Director. Smith Led Clinton Victories in California, Texas.
Still no NC phone numbers to call from HRC website…..
Highlights about NC primary below for those who will be working the phones.
http://www.ncdp.org/2008+Democratic+Primary+North+Carolina
The North Carolina Democratic Primary is May 6th, 2008.
The last day to register to vote on election day: Apr. 11
Absentee Voting: Mar. 17 - Apr. 29
One Stop Absentee Voting: Apr. 17 - May 3
Note: You can register to vote and cast your absentee ballot at the same time during the April 17th to May 3rd period at a One Stop Voting location.
About Same Day Voter Registration (SDVR)
* All US citizens who will be 18 and have lived in the country for at least 30 days by the general election date are eligible to vote using SDVR.
* Same Day Registration only takes place during the early voting period, 19 to 3 days prior to the election, not on the day of the election.
How
* Go to an early voting site in your county. (to find an early voting site, call toll free at 866-522-4723 or visit www.sboe.state.nc.us)
* Fill out the registration form
* Show the offical an accepted form of Identification (listed below)
* VOTE!
In North Carolina, unaffiliated voters are permitted to vote in the Democratic primary.
However, if an unaffiliated voter chooses to vote in the Democratic primary, he or she cannot vote in a Republican runoff (or second primary). Similarly, an unaffiliated voter who votes in a Republican primary cannot vote in a Democratic runoff.
Anyone with any on the ground info about early voting , voter registration efforts in NC
msga7
04-25-2008, 11:13 PM
Hello Hillary Supporters,
The way through for this campaign into North Carolina, is with the dunkin doughnuts democrats. Here is an interesting audio report about dunkin doughnut democrats vs starbucks democrats.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=89225418
for those that haven't heard it.
It is about loyalty vs change
The way through to North Carolina supporters, it is about peers and what other peers are doing, but there is a core that is still in the Heart, Mind and Soul of North Carolina, its about loyalty, its about reliability, it is about emotion, but not a false emotion, it is about understanding wisdom...that they have a leader that understands what they go through... one that will be there no matter what, through thick and thin... it is about true pride, to have a leader and president that they can be proud of.
No one likes fairweathered friends, they want one that is loyal, true, faithful, trustworthy right through to the end, that can still believe in Hope, but has the solutions to bring about changes through security...because there are huge problems that need to be fixed, it is a time and need for security that brings forth a good comfort.
It is about coffee, about having someone that can sit down with people and have coffee. Will they have an open door, an open ear in the white house, one that not only listens and cares, can respond genuinely. But one that will go and not only hear, but get off their back side to fix the problems.
There needs to be another coffee New Hampshire moment, the lets do coffee, lets lay everything out on the table. I am listening to u, and I would like u to listen to me, and lets have a conversation to get our nation back on track, and lets have a cuppa together. Its the don't vote for me because I am a women, or the colour of my skin, vote for me, because u honestly believe, I can be loyal, true, and get the job done and still care. that I am not only qualified and experienced, but because u believe I am the best person for the job. No frills, no fanfare, no hooplah, just plain and simple, on the line, on the button, on the nose everytime. I will be a president that has an open door, a listening ear, and u can come and talk to me about what concerns u. I know u r hurting, I know u need a friend in the whitehouse that will not only listen and hear, but will bring forth solutions and start implementing them immediately, so u can start to feel the immediate relief, u r needing to make things better in ur life, North Carolina. Lets get North Carolina working together, Come lets work together in the whitehouse. Lets set our differences aside, and lets bring forth the solutions this nation needs again to happen. Lets get together because we care and lets do coffee.
Its the dunkin doughnuts democrats that is going to make a difference not only North Carolina, but for the rest of the race. The loyal and true base to come forth. Because that loyal and true base is in the midst of North Carolina. Once they are loyal, that's it, they remain loyal no matter what. Excitement only lasts for a time, but loyalty remains right to the very end.
The loyal and true base of the democratic party. And Faith is the solid base.
msga
nette60
04-26-2008, 10:23 AM
I can tell you we're working our butts off in the Democratic Counties here in NC which is a predominantly Red State. The universities here are not so "liberal" as people might think with the exception of Duke. Everyone I've spoken with is very much a Hillary Supporter and I'm working hard on making the kids here at UNCW look very deeply into Obama. I know it's working and I think Hillary will take this State. The second largest in delegates to PA left to vote.
Thae Duke community should not be too happy with the very liberal part of the media that falsely accused them of rape..along with big mouths , Al Sharpton and Jesse jackson..Maybe we could just kind of remind them
Ohio mom
04-26-2008, 10:33 AM
http://www.hillaryclinton.com/hq/northcarolina/
No one is conceding anything.
There are North Carolina threads all over this forum. With positive, concrete actions to take.
Call, write, blog, donate.
I should know better than to listen to the MSM!!!:rolleyes: It just struck me because they said she didn't have the $$ to focus on that state because of the AA population!! It's funny how they say it's not about race...WHATEVER!!! Thanks for the feedback though!!!:)
PA_Voter
04-26-2008, 10:49 AM
May I suggest to canvassers in AA communities that you print out Dr. Maya Angelou's open letter "I am Honored to Say I am With Hillary for the Long Run" and hand it out to people along with any campaign literature when going door-to-door?
When calling or blogging, it may be helpful to quote a few lines from this letter?
Does anyone think this is a good idea?
floorrunner
04-26-2008, 12:00 PM
I thought that since this thread is about NC that thsi would be an appropriate place to post this link from the news observer. Very Favorable article for Hillary.
http://www.newsobserver.com/politics/story/1050672.html
blueskygal
04-26-2008, 12:40 PM
FIND POLITICAL SCIENCE BUILDINGS AND COLLEGE DEMOCRATS!!!Also,found something interesting from Obama's speech,now aired on CNN. Obama says in NC that the TRINITY CHURCH OF GOD is 99% white? WHAT?
it is a large church with many many churches. but if he's inferring that that has some positive for him it's a lie. he joined his church because of the black radicalism. the entire church does not advocate this at all. they are a niche within that larger organization.
he lies but what he doesn't say as much as by what he does say.
BO is a liar!
Laura Cereta
04-26-2008, 09:41 PM
I don't think Hillary is going to put much effort into North Carolina, her website doesn't even offer the option to call anywhere in the state.. I wish we had 6 weeks to campaign in just NC, then it would be more similar to PA.
Really?? We're not even calling there? I fundamentally disagree with this strategy. I have to remember, though, that she is working with finite resources. Ultimately, the $$$ must go where it will get the best return.
Laura Cereta
04-26-2008, 09:46 PM
Actually her website does offer the call option for NC and we already have offices open across the State. Ace Smith is running the show here and he ran CA and TX. A team of volunteers from TX have been here for weeks now. HRC will be here tomorrow and the entire Clinton Family will be in NC.
I am co-chairing no less than 5 Fund Raisers for HRC across the State.
We are playing to WIN.
HRC, Bill and Chelsea have been in the State campaigning during this 6 weeks. The Campaign is conceding nothing. And, nor should we. Every day a new HQ seems to open and more people get on the ground because the suport is much greater than any poll will tell you.
The calls and the ground game are what we need.
Oh, O.K... I'm glad to hear this. I thought it sounded odd not to even have a call option. Thank you for all your work! :)
hillarymyhero
04-27-2008, 01:52 AM
i wish Hillary wins the rest of the rimaries by 100% and Obama 0%.
He deserves the worst, he and his ugly tactics. After smearing Hillary's character, he always tries to come clean.
And then starts his message of hope and change...my foot.
Rekha Varma
04-29-2008, 04:59 PM
Make phone calls 2 Indiana & North Carolina 2 state your positive case 4 Hillary & inform people about upcoming events in Indiana & North Carolina 2 invite undecided voters 2 not miss opportunity of seeing them in person 2 help make a decission. Also remind both states that there is early voting b4 May 6th.
Inform people about upcoming events in Indiana with updates & further details on this website:
http://www.hillaryclinton.com/hq/indiana/
04/29: Join Hillary for a "Standing up for Jobs" rally - Princeton
04/30: "Standing up for Jobs" Town Hall Meeting with Hillary - Portage
04/30: Hillary attends “Standing up for Jobs” Town Hall Meeting in Lafayette
04/30: Join Hillary for a "Standing up for Jobs" rally - Kokomo
05/01: Join Hillary for a "Standing up for Jobs" rally - Terre Haute
Inform people about upcoming events in North Carolina with updates & further details on this website:
http://www.hillaryclinton.com/hq/northcarolina/
04/29: A Conversation with Hillary and Governor Mike Easley
04/29: Solutions for America Event with President Bill Clinton in Boone!
04/29: Solutions for America Event with President Bill Clinton in North Wilkesboro!
04/29: Solutions for America Event with President Bill Clinton in Elkin!
04/29: Solutions for America Event with President Bill Clinton in Mount Airy!
Link 2 start making phone calls:
http://tools.hillaryclinton.com/calling/
Make sure they know that Hillary is there and with the support of our grassroots movement we're not giving up on any state or any voter. We are up 2 the challenge 2 again overcome the odds in NC, & we are not going 2 take Indiana 4 granted.
wfandi
04-30-2008, 01:23 PM
I wish you had seen my face during the 11:00 local news report after Hillary had filled our Thomas Wolfe Auditorium here in WNC-very small-at capacity-2500!-and the reporters said at least another 4000 outside listening to the speakers! I would have loved to have been there-but I do good to go grocery shopping with FMS and osteo-also recent colon surgery-or trust me I would have been there! For the 1st time in forever a Presidential runner came to our town! She didn't care that the civic center was small-she didn't care how many would come-she showed up to a full house! 3 times over! the only time that has ever happened was way back in the concert days....REO Speedwagon-Emmerson,Lake and Palmer!-Marshall Tucker Band! Peace, Love, Dove!
I just bawled! There were people from all races there! Lots of them I never dreamed I'd see! supporting Hillary! I cry when the news is bad-but this was wonderful to see and so I bawled and am still bawlin' if I could catch all these darn tears and turn them into $ we would be way ahead of our goal!
But, NC isn't another VA. I won't go into details unless I need to-but we are def. one of our own NC! We are NOT SC either-Esp. WNC-and Raleigh is our research tri-angle-I have a daughter in law enforcement down state-she has worked in Raleigh-You won't find Duke and Chapel Hill-or Research Tri-angle in VA or SC. Sev of my daughters college roommates have gone to the tri-angle to work and have been there for going on 10 yrs. One roomate a Dr. so let's hear it WNC-NC-I am making calls today in my neighborhood-will be back with the results later!
Thank you for the chance to let NC be heard!
^J^
Mrsawd
04-30-2008, 01:27 PM
Send Them All The Commercail From With Maya !
hillary1
04-30-2008, 01:37 PM
Hey everyone!
It's never too early to keep abreast of the states that are to come. I was over at RCP today and saw where they now have North Carolina listed with their polls. In some very ENCOURAGING news, Hillary has closed the gap on Obama in North Carolina.
Poll - Date - Sample - Clinton - Obama - Spread
PPP (D) | 03/03 - 03/03 | 508 LV | 43 | 47 | Obama +4.0
Elon College | 02/18 - 02/21 | 307 LV | 31 |45 | Obama +14.0
SurveyUSA | 02/11 - 02/11 | 580 LV |40 | 50 | Obama +10.0
As you can see, in the latest poll, it's become a close race. This means that North Carolina might actually be a state to fight for. I'm hoping so because I live about an hour north of the border and I'm ready to head down and do what I can!
So, I wanted to start the NC thread and let's get a jump on Obama and secure this state for Clinton. Virginia may have went the wrong way, but maybe our southern neighbor won't make the same mistake!
the media a**wipes made a big deal out of the pa.primary, citing hillary was 20 pts.up, and obama narrowed that, meaning many people liked obama, however, here obama is on the high side, and hillary is closing in n.c., but the advantage here is that HILLARY DID NOT OUTSPEND OBAMA BY 3-1, AS OBAMA DID IN PA., AND HE STILL LOST, BUT THE MEDIA A**WIPES WILL STILL CONTEND OBAMA HAS THE DELEGATES, OBAMA HAS THE POPULAR VOTES, YES, BUT OBAMA IS FIGHTING TO SEAT THE DELEGATES OF MICHIGAN AND FLORIA, WHICH HILLARY WON, NO MATTER WHAT SPIN THE MEDIA A**WIPES PUT ON IT
OBAMA DROP OUT FOR THE GOOD OF THE PARTY, HOW COME I DON'T HEAR THIS FROM THAT A**WIPE DEAN, PELOSI, OR REID
OBAMA=WRIGHT - WRIGHT = OBAMA, TIED TO THE HIP
HILLARY OR MCCAIN IN NOVEMBER
OBAMA = WELFARE
HILLARY = JOBS, HEALTHCARE, TAXES, EDUCATION, IRAQ, IRAN
mukunda22
04-30-2008, 02:03 PM
I wrote a note to Elizabeth Edwards.
Thanks for the link.
floorrunner
04-30-2008, 11:02 PM
It was revealed on Hannity and Colmes tonight that Hillary is ahead for the first time in a NC poll Insider advantage Hillary 44 Obama 42
mjno7777
05-01-2008, 08:39 PM
I think at this date of 5/1, ALL OF US ON THIS FORUM must totally concentrate on NC and INDIANA.
nette60
05-01-2008, 08:52 PM
Hey everyone!
It's never too early to keep abreast of the states that are to come. I was over at RCP today and saw where they now have North Carolina listed with their polls. In some very ENCOURAGING news, Hillary has closed the gap on Obama in North Carolina.
Poll - Date - Sample - Clinton - Obama - Spread
PPP (D) | 03/03 - 03/03 | 508 LV | 43 | 47 | Obama +4.0
Elon College | 02/18 - 02/21 | 307 LV | 31 |45 | Obama +14.0
SurveyUSA | 02/11 - 02/11 | 580 LV |40 | 50 | Obama +10.0
As you can see, in the latest poll, it's become a close race. This means that North Carolina might actually be a state to fight for. I'm hoping so because I live about an hour north of the border and I'm ready to head down and do what I can!
So, I wanted to start the NC thread and let's get a jump on Obama and secure this state for Clinton. Virginia may have went the wrong way, but maybe our southern neighbor won't make the same mistake!
Virginia will vote rep in Fall.Now there are a lot of liberals moved to n Virginia
nette60
05-01-2008, 08:54 PM
I can tell you we're working our butts off in the Democratic Counties here in NC which is a predominantly Red State. The universities here are not so "liberal" as people might think with the exception of Duke. Everyone I've spoken with is very much a Hillary Supporter and I'm working hard on making the kids here at UNCW look very deeply into Obama. I know it's working and I think Hillary will take this State. The second largest in delegates to PA left to vote.
Don't give up on Duke either. Remember the LaCrosse fiasco.
Alessandro Machi
05-04-2008, 03:18 AM
I am proud to support Hillary because she has stood up for what matters to all people.
RESPECT and DIGNITY for all.
=============================
..............
There are two people that I would like to thank before concluding. That's Ellie Acheson, who is the spearhead for this, and also Nancy Scheibner who wrote this poem which is the last thing that I would like to read:
Quote:
My entrance into the world of so-called "social problems"
Must be with quiet laughter, or not at all.
The hollow men of anger and bitterness
The bountiful ladies of righteous degradation
All must be left to a bygone age.
And the purpose of history is to provide a receptacle
For all those myths and oddments
Which oddly we have acquired
And from which we would become unburdened
To create a newer world
To transform the future into the present.
We have no need of false revolutions
In a world where categories tend to tyrannize our minds
And hang our wills up on narrow pegs.
It is well at every given moment to seek the limits in our lives.
And once those limits are understood
To understand that limitations no longer exist.
Earth could be fair. And you and I must be free
Not to save the world in a glorious crusade
Not to kill ourselves with a nameless gnawing pain
But to practice with all the skill of our being
The art of making possible.
[/B] ...........
I named my blog "Dwell in Possibility" back in March of this year and it was supposed to be my editorial and philosophical blog. Instead my blog has developed a mind of it's own and has become a pro Hillary blog.
Hillary ends her speech back in 1969 with the line "the art of making possible", and my blog "Dwell in Possibility" metamorphasizes into a pro Hillary blog in 2008. lol, the Power of Hillary! (and Emily Dickinson).
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