Florida Will be Key_ We will just NOT go AWAY!!!

[Renee in Florida]

CNN just reported that our Gov. Charlie Christ of Florida and the Michigan Gov
are joining forces to seat our delegates.

Florida is key as well as Michigan. Obama was on the ballot in Florida, and As I keep reminding everyone advertised heavily in the Florida market from jan 21- jan 29.
Obama ran ads non-stop on CNN and MSNBC for 10 days, loses Florida and flip-flops on our importance.

With both Governors involved now, and continuous pressure from the Public, H Dean will have to seat us.!!

Everyone please call the DNC and ask to spe3ak to Howard Deans office. Lets flood his office with phone calls and tell him he MUST seat Florida and Michigan now.

NO REVOTES!!! WE in FLORIDA and MICHIGAN have spoken!!!
Seat us NOW!!!

[Qulin]

You know I am on it. These votes must count.

[johnny51981]

So should it be considered his own fault that he took his name off of the Michigan ballot, thus giving him no votes?

Florida should NOT be re-done at all...EVERYONE was on the ballot there...and she still spanked him. But if there is a re-vote there...then it might be worse off for him because he totally turned his back on them. Why would they want someone who does that?

[skc1976]

So should it be considered his own fault that he took his name off of the Michigan ballot, thus giving him no votes?

Florida should NOT be re-done at all...EVERYONE was on the ballot there...and she still spanked him. But if there is a re-vote there...then it might be worse off for him because he totally turned his back on them. Why would they want someone who does that?

Something I didn't realize was that they actually had a debate in Florida in September of 2007. So, it's not like they haven't been into the state. I think Florida's results should stand.

If not, at least the key bases for her are in Florida and are pretty strong.

Someone on NBC Nightly News tonight said to just allow FL and MI and split them 50/50. That does no good at all.

[Disfranchised]

Obama ran TV advertisement for a week leading up to the primary when they all pledge they will not.
When he lost he called Florida primary a beauty contest. I guess even he knows he is a very ugly person inside.

[CGP]

He didn't view it as a beauty contest back in 2007!

See the article in the thread below:

http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=214

[joeysky18]

He is the most flip-flop politician i haven't seen in years....

[skc1976]

Obama ran TV advertisement for a week leading up to the primary when they all pledge they will not.
When he lost he called Florida primary a beauty contest. I guess even he knows he is a very ugly person inside.

He did run ads? Very interesting! The plot thickens!

[Patsy]

He did run ads? Very interesting! The plot thickens!

He then claimed he had no idea they would be broadcast in Florida. What does the idiot think CABLE IS?

[bernie gagliano]

CNN just reported that our Gov. Charlie Christ of Florida and the Michigan Gov
are joining forces to seat our delegates.

Florida is key as well as Michigan. Obama was on the ballot in Florida, and As I keep reminding everyone advertised heavily in the Florida market from jan 21- jan 29.
Obama ran ads non-stop on CNN and MSNBC for 10 days, loses Florida and flip-flops on our importance.

With both Governors involved now, and continuous pressure from the Public, H Dean will have to seat us.!!

Everyone please call the DNC and ask to spe3ak to Howard Deans office. Lets flood his office with phone calls and tell him he MUST seat Florida and Michigan now.

NO REVOTES!!! WE in FLORIDA and MICHIGAN have spoken!!!
Seat us NOW!!!

Get ready for a new primary. I think they will move in that direction. Howard Dean will not accept the first results. It will be a new primary, so Florida, get ready to blow him away once and for all. She needs 10 point victory.

And we all need to be ready to raise $6-8 million for the second campaign.

Renee, you need to organize for this. They will do it swiftly to help him. He has tons of money.

The rules should be just Democrats. No outsiders. She would smoke him in that match up. I suspect the DNC and the Black Caucus will set this up to favor him by schedule and the people allowed to vote.

All he has going for him is money and the insiders trying to stop Hillary.

Protesting is no good. Save your energy. They will try to fix it once and for all.

Hillary may secretly want this second one. She may feel she can kill him there. He is very vulnerable.

[debbrad]

CNN just reported that our Gov. Charlie Christ of Florida and the Michigan Gov
are joining forces to seat our delegates.

Florida is key as well as Michigan. Obama was on the ballot in Florida, and As I keep reminding everyone advertised heavily in the Florida market from jan 21- jan 29.
Obama ran ads non-stop on CNN and MSNBC for 10 days, loses Florida and flip-flops on our importance.

With both Governors involved now, and continuous pressure from the Public, H Dean will have to seat us.!!

Everyone please call the DNC and ask to spe3ak to Howard Deans office. Lets flood his office with phone calls and tell him he MUST seat Florida and Michigan now.

NO REVOTES!!! WE in FLORIDA and MICHIGAN have spoken!!!
Seat us NOW!!!

You might want to vote in this at msnbc, it is a poll about Fl. votes

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23473644

[SD]

i have read that the democrats are considering holding a caucas in florida. i have sent numerous emails to mr dean asking that our delegates be seated. a caucus is not acceptable. florida and michigan voted. count our votes.

[Patsy]

As I said earlier, the Democratic Party is supposed to represent everyone and to disenfranchise millions of voters is unconscionable and goes against every value of this Party. If we're lucky someone will pour water onto the wires connecting the mikes at all the MSM outlets and we won't have to hear from them ever again.

It's a question of democracy and fairness. Florida and Michigan MUST be seated. Period. End of discussion. Now Howard Dean, the closet Obama supporter, needs to get off his duff and do something about it now.

[johnny51981]

Can they just re-certify the votes that have already been cast...without re-counting them? Would that not make it no different than "early voting"?

[debbrad]

I think they are going to have to seat them (FL.)........If they would do it now it would give both Obama and Hillary some, I think I heard she would come up 38, still not ahead of BO. Neither one will have enough at the end of the next 14 states. Even if they win every state with a land slide. It will have to be superdel. decide in the end. So when it comes down to it it is going to be the one winning the most states going into the convention is the way I understand it..??????? Who knows what will happen in the end???????:confused:

[SoCal4Hillary]

In light of everything, I came up with a new design (http://www.cafepress.com/saproducts/4996666) today; feedback is welcome and appreciated. In a nutshell, it says: "I VOTED AND I WANT MY VOTE TO COUNT!" For those of you in Florida or Michigan, this will make a bold statement about your feelings regarding your votes [potentially...as it stands right now] not counting. So speak up! :eek:

Because this is such a time-limited issue, I didn't bother putting the design on lots of products I normally would (such as mousepads, hats, etc.). I figured that people who'd want to get the word out on this would most likely want buttons, bumper stickers, magnets, t-shirts, etc.

Here's what the design looks like on the products:

http://logo.cafepress.com/nocache/6/11836.4996666.jpg (http://www.cafepress.com/saproducts/4996666)

And I've also added it to the political avatars page (http://www.smartassproducts.com/avatars_AntiBush.shtml) on my site. Help yourselves! :D

[Jayling]

The Official Florida vote standing as of today, March 5th, 2008:

Clinton - 870,986 Popular Vote / 105 Pledged Delegates / 8 Supers / 113 Total Delegates

Obama - 576,214 Popular Vote / 67 Pledged Delegates / 4 Supers / 71 Total Delegates

There are still 13 FL Supers who haven't endorsed yet.

Hillary received 294,772 more popular votes in Florida
Hillary received 42 more total Delegates

:)

http://election.dos.state.fl.us/elections/resultsarchive/index.asp?ElectionDate=1/29/2008
http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P08/FL-D.phtml#0129