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CGP
03-05-2008, 10:29 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/05/texas.caucus.count/index.html

Note the part towards the end of the article where it says that the Clinton Campaign is considering taking legal action to challenge the results of the Texas Caucuses based on "hundreds of complaints" about shady practices at the caucus events! That's Obama's method for winning and he will no doubt win the Teaxs Caucuses. It's the Primary vote, however, that has the greatest psychological value and is the bigger prize because its results are uncontaminated by bullying/unethical tactics and it is a more accurate reflection of public sentiment

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Carla
03-05-2008, 11:07 PM
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/3/4/142712/2196
SantaCruzen
03-06-2008, 01:28 PM
People no longer linger in bird like formations. Americans have complex schedules and caucuses just are not relevant to the real voting population. I keep reading complaints after each caucus. They ought to be archived into the history books.
CGP
03-06-2008, 01:39 PM
People no longer linger in bird like formations. Americans have complex schedules and caucuses just are not relevant to the real voting population. I keep reading complaints after each caucus. They ought to be archived into the history books.

Agreed. A complete and utter WASTE OF TIME!

Anonymous "1 person: 1 vote" primaries are the ONLY fair way to gauge public opinion about a candidate.
LetsHelpAmerica
03-06-2008, 01:44 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/05/texas.caucus.count/index.html

Note the part towards the end of the article where it says that the Clinton Campaign is considering taking legal action to challenge the results of the Texas Caucuses based on "hundreds of complaints" about shady practices at the caucus events! That's Obama's method for winning and he will no doubt win the Teaxs Caucuses. It's the Primary vote, however, that has the greatest psychological value and is the bigger prize because its results are uncontaminated by bullying/unethical tactics and it is a more accurate reflection of public sentiment

(Thread will be relocated to "features and articles" category after exposure in the main forum)

Yes and I recall as early as Nevada, complaints that came in on Hillary's official site with regards to bully tactics during caucusing. I think this is central to his large wins in caucus states.
LetsHelpAmerica
03-06-2008, 01:47 PM
People no longer linger in bird like formations. Americans have complex schedules and caucuses just are not relevant to the real voting population. I keep reading complaints after each caucus. They ought to be archived into the history books.

I agree and it is open to so much tampering and unethical tactics.
barrington41
03-06-2008, 10:38 PM
The night before the last elections I went to Obama's website, and the bloggers there were encouraging Texans to get to the caucus sites early and lock Hillary supporters out. The next day I heard complaints that this is exactly what was happening. I wrote to Hillary's campaign to alert them - maybe they can get the transcripts of Obama's site - maybe it would be a kind of evidence.
RAFREE
03-07-2008, 04:32 AM
I read the police were called to one site in Texas where this is exactly what happened! The Obama people had locked out the Hillary supporters and the police were called!
Bacio83
03-07-2008, 01:11 PM
There's nothing worse than a corrupt system especially when Obama's touting it around as proof of being the "better candidate."

I really hate caucuses.
CGP
03-07-2008, 07:36 PM
There's nothing worse than a corrupt system especially when Obama's touting it around as proof of being the "better candidate."

I really hate caucuses.

Totaly agree.
CGP
03-07-2008, 07:36 PM
I read the police were called to one site in Texas where this is exactly what happened! The Obama people had locked out the Hillary supporters and the police were called!

Really? Outreagous...
RAFREE
03-07-2008, 09:14 PM
Really? Outreagous...

Yes, really. In California a woman was pushed off the sidewalk. Ken from the old blogs was there and saw it and another person was shoved.

They go TOO FAR! Wyoming is a caucus state and when we call we need to tell people to get there really early so they don't get shut out!
CGP
03-07-2008, 09:21 PM
Yes, really. In California a woman was pushed off the sidewalk. Ken from the old blogs was there and saw it and another person was shoved.

Appalling behavior. :mad:
samkm
03-07-2008, 10:08 PM
Many Texans didnt know and didnt understand caucus. I was on the phone explaining to many voters especially spanish-speaking voters (with my english to spanish translation in hand) the need to go to both the day time to vote and then in the evening to sign up and caucus. Many of them are laborers exhausted at the end of the day, but were RESOLUTE in getting there in time to be in the door.

BUT, it looked like a LOT of people were left outside the door when the caucus door got shut. I saw reports that many people stood outside the door for hours waiting for their turn.

This is NOT what we as a country should be known for.. I am sure we can get this right and count them in...

It cant be just the college-towns that have big rooms for caucusing.. we have to find a way to include all who come.. find a way to accomodate in SOME place so their voices are heard. In/out/across/another building/whatever.. what is most important is that the votes and the voices are included. That is democracy.