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Old 05-15-2008, 02:35 PM
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Default 5 states (not only FL and MI) violated DNC rules - how would this affect the delegates if all 5 were penalized?

but only Fl and MI are being penalized. How would it affect the delegate count if the other states were also penalized?

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http://ph.answers.yahoo.com/question...8094918AApPjQ0
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Old 05-15-2008, 02:48 PM
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just checked on real clear politics
59 delegates for Obama
37 delegated for Clinton

so not a big difference

BUT a good argument for having all the states count, including FL and MI
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Old 05-15-2008, 02:49 PM
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The same exact thing that I was wondering. In fact, someone brought it up earlier.
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Old 05-15-2008, 02:58 PM
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THERE WOULD ABOSOLUTELY BE NO QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS ISSUE IF THESE WERE STATES THAT WOULD HAVE VOTED BO !

The other issue is how come every error mistake , double counting ,spoiled votes and all the other issues have all been favored for BO. This should be a very good issue for the big meeting ! If this all would have been for Hillary you can bet your booty that BO and his supportters would have been screaming disqualify every one of them ! Florda and Michigan should be counted 100%
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Old 05-15-2008, 02:59 PM
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Well, if using the 50% penalty, all this would really do is cut in half everyones delegates from those states, keeping them at the same distance from each other as they are now. And if delegates were cut in half, the number needed to reach nomination would also be scaled back.

So, in effect, they'd both be at the same distance as they are right now in delegates from one another. So if Hillary was behind him in Pledged say 100 delegates, she'd still be behind by 100.

Did that make sense? I'm still trying to wake up
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Old 05-15-2008, 03:05 PM
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Default They Followed the Rules

They followed the rules, it is up to their discretion. In other words, they can give waivers to the other three and punish the usurpers. The first three were supposed to go before Florida and Michigan, so they were allowed to change their scheduled dates by the DNC so they would still go before Florida and Michigan. Again, what makes Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina more important than any other state. States should be allowed to determine their own primary dates, as should be their right. If all want it on January 1st, so be it
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Old 05-15-2008, 03:27 PM
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THERE WOULD ABOSOLUTELY BE NO QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS ISSUE IF THESE WERE STATES THAT WOULD HAVE VOTED BO !

The other issue is how come every error mistake , double counting ,spoiled votes and all the other issues have all been favored for BO. This should be a very good issue for the big meeting ! If this all would have been for Hillary you can bet your booty that BO and his supportters would have been screaming disqualify every one of them ! Florda and Michigan should be counted 100%
Can you fill me in on these voting issues?

I am going to the meeting in DC.

Anybody else on their way there?
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Old 05-15-2008, 03:32 PM
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They followed the rules, it is up to their discretion. In other words, they can give waivers to the other three and punish the usurpers. The first three were supposed to go before Florida and Michigan, so they were allowed to change their scheduled dates by the DNC so they would still go before Florida and Michigan. Again, what makes Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina more important than any other state. States should be allowed to determine their own primary dates, as should be their right. If all want it on January 1st, so be it
YEAH, BUT WHERE THEY DIDN'T FOLLOW THE RULE was stripping FL/MI of all their delegates. I read the rules and the rule states a 50% reduction shall be imposed as punishment. Not 100%
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Old 05-15-2008, 03:34 PM
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If the rules were followed Obama wouldn't get any delegates from Florida
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Old 05-15-2008, 03:41 PM
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Looks like a big ol' lawsuit just ripe for the pickins'! Wouldn't it be great to finacially destroy the DNC prior to November? Now that might be a very worthwhile cause....
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Old 05-15-2008, 03:45 PM
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ACTION Jackson Sent PM I believe you will find the info there !
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